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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    I don't have to slog through hundreds and hundreds of pages to know that the healthcare reform bill was crap. The contents of the controversial parts of the law are well known, and it is completely reasonable to form an opinion without sitting down and reading the text, as the portions that people feel strongly about are national news. Add in the fact that the uproar over the AZ law centered around a single phrase, which was widely printed, and I don't think it's wrong for Holder to criticize the bill without reading through the 9 1/2 pages of mundane, noncontroversial text that surrounded it.

    Does his not having read the following paragraph really have an impact on the validity of his opinon?



    Is there any section of the law that you believe would have impacted his opinion had he read it? I'd love to see a quote
    The "controversial" parts of the bill were heavily misrepresented or taken out of context by the media and liberal special interests.

    There is nothing "controversial" about this law; it's simply the state enforcement of preexisting Federal law. Anyone who thinks there is reason for an "uproar" doesn't know how to read, or, in Holder's case, hasn't read it at all.

    He goofed up. He should have taken an hour to read the ****ing thing, especially when one considers the significance of the national dialog currently taking place in regards to this bill.

    Ten freaking pages. Took me a little over an hour to read it. If he's going to speak authoritatively about a bill, he ought to read it. All these government morons ought to read the bills they support or denounce; I don't care how "busy" they are with trying to get donations or rubbing elbows with special interests. Do your ****ing jobs.

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Then just admit you once again didn't check your facts and mouthed off your partisan dribble before you verified anything you were claiming.
    How about you reread the thread and show me where I said he read it.

    You're the one who put a nice hyper-spin on the story...



    Let me tell you a little secret. If he is going to go on television and hasn't read a 10 page document he is going to criticize he's a moron who should never have become a managing partner.
    He was very specific in what he said--based on his intial understanding of the STATE law....he found it troubling... a bit of political posturing.

    Spin little man, keep spinning...



    10 pages hazlnut.

    10 pages. Thats it. And he was stupid enough to criticize it before he actually knew the facts.

    Is that where you get it from?

    Criticize??? Try again. Try real hard to actually read and understand what he said...what little he said about the STATE law...

    The STATE law that's only on his radar in that it's an election year and he has to do a little posturing.... Jeez, please tell us you're not that thick.



    I understand common sense. Perhaps you should look into it. If you are going to criticize a law, how about reading it first? Novel approach huh.
    He said he found it troubling.... very political answer. Move on and stop the moronic spin.

    Quit while you're behind Hazel. Its not going to get any easier.
    I'm so far a head of you, text, it's not even funny. But you keep spinning away, and serving your masters...

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    racial profiling...

    just a little posturing

    in an election year

    LOL!

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    This guy has got to be the most incompetent AG in our nation's history.

    He has been openly discussing taking legal action against a law he has never read.

    You don't get any worse.
    Holder needs to be told to leave Miranda alone. That law keeps dishonest cops in check. If he doesn't like it, he can resign and go **** his mom.

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Or maybe it's 15 pages of completely mundane legislation and a half a sentence that can be construed as unconstitutional
    if you don't review you can't construe

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The STATE law that's only on his radar in that it's an election year and he has to do a little posturing....
    Why would he posture? His position is appointed, not elected.
    Just curious.

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    How about you reread the thread and show me where I said he read it.

    You're the one who put a nice hyper-spin on the story...
    You are really taking the fun out of it Hazel.

    I said:

    He has been openly discussing taking legal action against a law he has never read.
    You replied with:

    Incorrect. False. More b.s. spin
    You've been obliterated yet again. I can't believe you pretended to claim you never claimed he read it when you claimed I made it up that he had not read it.

    But go ahead and keep digging that hole. I love a show after dinner.

    He was very specific in what he said--based on his intial understanding of the STATE law....he found it troubling... a bit of political posturing.

    Spin little man, keep spinning...
    No spin here little buddy. He passed judgment on a law that he admitted he has never read. No matter how many times you use the word "spin" you will never spin your way out of that one.

    Criticize??? Try again. Try real hard to actually read and understand what he said...what little he said about the STATE law...

    The STATE law that's only on his radar in that it's an election year and he has to do a little posturing.... Jeez, please tell us you're not that thick.
    Wow. This is worse than watching a train wreak.

    "We are considering all of our options. One possibility is filing a lawsuit," Holder told NBC's "Meet the Press." Possible grounds for the lawsuit would be whether the Arizona law could lead to civil rights violations, he said.


    Holder told ABC's "This Week" program that one concern about the Arizona law is that "you'll end up in a situation where people are racially profiled, and that could lead to a wedge drawn between certain communities and law enforcement, which leads to the problem of people in those communities not willing to interact with people in law enforcement, not willing to share information, not willing to be witnesses where law enforcement needs them."


    Holder: Feds may sue over Arizona immigration law - CNN.com

    He sure says quite a bit about a law he never read.

    Of course if he actually read the law he would have found it says specifically you cannot racially profile. But then again, he follows your logic. Comment first, check facts later.

    He said he found it troubling.... very political answer. Move on and stop the moronic spin.
    Read his quotes above. As usual, you haven't done your homework.

    I'm so far a head of you, text, it's not even funny. But you keep spinning away, and serving your masters...
    Didn't you just say that?

    ah, you serve your masters well..
    If you're so far ahead, why are you regurgitating the same tired lines?

    And its Tex not "Text"


    the only thing you are far ahead of me on is sticking your foot sqarley in your mouth and trying to push it further in with each post.

    Face it. You screwed up claiming it was false to say he had not read the law when he admitted it.

    After that, it was all downhill but keep going if you like. We are very entertained.
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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbeard View Post
    Why would he posture? His position is appointed, not elected.
    Just curious.
    Because Obama is up for re-election... Oh wait-

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    I'm pretty sure the republicans didn't read the health care bill when they were criticizing it either.

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Holder is a moron, and so is Obama for hiring him.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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