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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    This would be scandalous had this sort of thing happened to any one of Bush's AG's.....Now when brought up you get typical Allinsky attack, and ridicule instead of reasoned discussion.


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    So, Im confused on what Kernel Sanders is trying to get at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill
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    PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).
    Is this the section that is supposedly "unconstitutional"????
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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So, Im confused on what Kernel Sanders is trying to get at...



    Is this the section that is supposedly "unconstitutional"????
    That's what the left is saying. They believe that the "reasonable suspicion" clause legalizes racial profiling. I do not agree with this view BTW

    Regardless, can I take the silence to mean that nobody found another part of the law which impacts the constitutionality of the above quoted section?

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    That's what the left is saying. They believe that the "reasonable suspicion" clause legalizes racial profiling. I do not agree with this view BTW

    Regardless, can I take the silence to mean that nobody found another part of the law which impacts the constitutionality of the above quoted section?

    Well, Im not the one claiming it is unconstitutional, therefore, I won't be the one analyzing the document to find something unconstitutional. That is for the haters to do.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    The only way I see that it's constitutionality can be questioned is the power that AZ has instilled in itself to deal with this issue.

    Factually speaking - the Federal government is the one to rule and mandate all immigration issues.

    thus - AZ needs to be certain they aren't doing anything that the Fed government won't allow.

    I feel that they're within their means. Throughout the bill it references numerous Federal laws and regulations - no harm no foul. In the end Arizona still leaves it up to the Fed-jurisdiction who has final say over what happens to the illegals as how Arizona merely is determining who and how they're handed into federal custody - if at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Well, Im not the one claiming it is unconstitutional, therefore, I won't be the one analyzing the document to find something unconstitutional. That is for the haters to do.
    They would have to read it first...... ain't gunna happen because then they'd have to lie about what they read and we all know they would never do that ..... it's easier not to read it and just spout nonsense.
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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    They would have to read it first...... ain't gunna happen because then they'd have to lie about what they read and we all know they would never do that ..... it's easier not to read it and just spout nonsense.

    Nonono, what they will do is ignore the fact that "reasonable suspicion" is a well used, and well documented legal standard that law enforcement have been operating with for decades and pretend that its so vague it means stopping every mexican kid they see. Then they cry RACISM RACISM RACISM!

    And that always makes things go their way.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    dhs napolitano---"the system worked" wonkette, ms "one off," the former gub of AZ---hasn't READ IT either

    her embarrassing testimony in the senate:

    RealClearPolitics - Video - Napolitano Admits She Hasn't Read Arizona Law But Says She Wouldn't Sign It

    neither has crowley:

    Breitbart.tv State Department Spokesman Critical of Arizona Law Admits He Too Hasn’t Read It

    calderon clearly has:

    Calderon hits U.S. from House floor - Kasie Hunt - POLITICO.com

    how 'bout the time posner apologized "early and often" for arizona's action, cited as an example of "racial discrimination," while engaging in human rights talks with the most massively murderous regime in modern times:"

    US Cites AZ Immigration Law During Human Rights Talks with China, Conservatives Call It An Apology - Political Punch

    it only gets worse and worse

    the most incompetent crew america has ever encountered

    when is enough gonna be enough?

    how much more can we take?
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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    c'mon, chatters, SING!

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    reading's great so let's just shout out loud!
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    LOL!

    touche, ms brewer!

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    Re: Holder Hasn't Read AZ Law He Criticized

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This would be scandalous had this sort of thing happened to any one of Bush's AG's.....Now when brought up you get typical Allinsky attack, and ridicule instead of reasoned discussion.


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    The media is pro-illegal, so one of Bush's AG's criticizing Arizona's anti-illegal immigration law without first reading it would not have been scandalous and Bush would be tossing Calderon's salad just as Obama did regarding illegal immigration.
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