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    Re: Los Angeles to boycott Arizona over immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
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    We have never in the history of the USA had to "produce identification" when requested. We are free to not carry papers in this country. If you want to deport illegals, find another way.

    Yes, I am aware of a driver having to show a license. Most illegals do not drive.


    Do you know a lot of illegals that do or don't drive, or maybe a link to this information?

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    Re: Los Angeles to boycott Arizona over immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    How so? Los Angeles is a vastly diverse cultural city that recognizes the stupidity in the Arizona law.
    Again...if it doesn't apply to us, then we shouldn't be doing any business with them in the first place, should we.
    Your beloved federal government wrote it, lib. Arizona is merely enforcing it.

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    Re: Los Angeles to boycott Arizona over immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Los Angeles to boycott Arizona over immigration law | Reuters






    Setting aside the oddity of the idea, my mind was blown by this:



    How stupid can you be? If you don't understand how the bill works, maybe you shouldn't be voting on whether to boycott an entire state over it.


    Los Angeles is filled with illegals. Naturally, those who govern them are not going to favor any measure that makes life for illegals difficult.

    That city council can stick a sock in it. As far as I am concerned, every one of those council members need to be screened for legal status.

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    Re: Los Angeles to boycott Arizona over immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    The law will be overturned, the US Constitution states Congress makes laws concerning naturalization, not AZ (To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, Article 1 Section 8).
    You are correct quoting that particular (the italics mine) line in the Constitution.
    With that said, please grant my request of identifying, highlighting, copy/pasting the section/subsection in the Arizona Law (SB 1070) specifically stating where, when they will be conducting "Naturalization hearings?"

    You may find these interesting. Just a few court cases where illegal aliens tried to fight the system and lost. Some involving 4th & 14th Amendment rights to State LEO’s rights in questioning legal status.
    These few federal court decisions on the illegal alien issue also have direct bearing on SB 1070 signed into law:

    Gonzales v. City of Peoria, http://openjurist.org/722/f2d/468/go...city-of-peoria 722 F.2d 468. 1983: United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
    United States v. Salinas-Calderon, http://openjurist.org/728/f2d/1298/u...linas-calderon 728 F2nd 1298. 1984: United States Court of Appeals, Tenth Circuit
    United States v. Vasquez- Alvarez, http://openjurist.org/176/f3d/1294/u...asquez-alvarez 176 F.3rd 1294. 1999: United States Court of Appeals, Tenth Circuit
    United States v. Santana-Garcia, http://openjurist.org/264/f3d/1188 264 F.3rd 1188. 2001: United States Court of Appeals, Tenth Circuit
    United States v. Rodriguez-Arreola, http://openjurist.org/270/f3d/611/un...riguez-arreola 270 F.3rd 611. 2001: United States Court of Appeals, Eighth Circuit
    United States v. Hernandez-Dominguez. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bi...case&no=993305 2005: United States Court of Appeals, Tenth Circuit
    Gray v City of Valley Park. http://www.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/09/06/081681P.pdf 2008: United States Court of Appeals, Eighth Circuit.
    Astrid G. Estrada http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opin...-1149P-01A.pdf February 10, 2010; United States Court of Appeals, First Circuit
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    Re: Los Angeles to boycott Arizona over immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
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    We have never in the history of the USA had to "produce identification" when requested. We are free to not carry papers in this country. If you want to deport illegals, find another way.

    Yes, I am aware of a driver having to show a license. Most illegals do not drive.
    Dude, you have to carry an ID on you AT ALL TIMES. It has been this way for many many years. You have never been free to "not carry papers" in this country. Is this why people have such a hard time understanding this law? You don't even know current law that has been law before you were born.

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    Re: Los Angeles to boycott Arizona over immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
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    Do you know a lot of illegals that do or don't drive, or maybe a link to this information?
    I tried to find a statistic, but came up empty. I know a lot of illegal Mexicans. Usually, only the crew supervisors drive because an illegal can't get a driver's license without proof of citizenship. The fake documents required to get a license are too expensive for most illegals.
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    Re: Los Angeles to boycott Arizona over immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Metripod67 View Post
    Dude, you have to carry an ID on you AT ALL TIMES. It has been this way for many many years. You have never been free to "not carry papers" in this country. Is this why people have such a hard time understanding this law? You don't even know current law that has been law before you were born.
    Are you just guessing? Go ahead and prove that I always have to carry an ID when I'm out walking. I think that as drivers we always have to have our licenses with us. Since we drive everywhere every day, we always have an ID. That makes people think that there's an ID law, when there isn't one on the books if you aren't driving anywhere. You'll notice, if you've ever been pulled over while having passengers in your vehicle, that the Police don't ask your passengers for an ID.
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    Re: Los Angeles to boycott Arizona over immigration law

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    Re: Los Angeles to boycott Arizona over immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    You'll notice, if you've ever been pulled over while having passengers in your vehicle, that the Police don't ask your passengers for an ID.
    Depends completely on the reason for being pulled over....a simple traffic infraction...usually, no.

    If a car full of thugs are pulled over because they are suspected of committing a crime, ID will be demanded from all in the vehicle.

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    Re: Los Angeles to boycott Arizona over immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Non issue? Phoenix was not choosen over Tampa Bay for non immigration issues wink wink. You can spin it all you want, the decision gives the appearance of it being moved for the immigration reason. Secondly, the GOP running up and down the street in AZ will cast a bad light on the GOP, and they don't want to turn off latino GOP, etc., so they are not having it here.
    There you go again, being moved... Nothing is being moved. You are doing the spinning, not me. How can you move something that had never been assigned in the first place.

    You think I care what a talking head has to say?

    Hey if the law is so great, why aren't all the other Red states jumping on the band wagon to pass similar laws? Second thoughts. Boycotts scaring red states?
    Legislative process takes time. I think it is smart to see how this one works before jumping on the bandwagon. Besides, the only other red state on the border is Texas.

    Arizona has been involved in this crap before the the MLK holiday. We lost a lot of money because of boycotts, and the moderates and liberals got off there asses and voted for the holiday.
    People are sheep -- especially liberals. New Hampshire dealt with it for many years too despite the fact that the day 48 other states designated as MLK Day was designated as Civil Rights Day in New Hampshire -- a FAR MORE inclusive holiday. Fortunately, NH is not as much at the mercy of boycotts because it is not a convention hub and individual tourists kept coming to the state.

    The law will be overturned, the US Constitution states Congress makes laws concerning naturalization, not AZ (To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, Article 1 Section 8).
    This is not a law about naturalization -- this is a law about following the rules about being in the country legally and providing law enforcement guidelines to enforce EXISTING LAWS!!!
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