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    Arizona gov. signs bill targeting ethnic studies

    Arizona gov. signs bill targeting ethnic studies - Yahoo! News

    State schools chief Tom Horne, who has pushed the bill for years, said he believes the Tucson school district's Mexican-American studies program teaches Latino students that they are oppressed by white people.

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    The measure signed Tuesday prohibits classes that advocate ethnic solidarity, that are designed primarily for students of a particular race or that promote resentment toward a certain ethnic group.

    The Tucson Unified School District program offers specialized courses in African-American, Mexican-American and Native-American studies that focus on history and literature and include information about the influence of a particular ethnic group.

    For example, in the Mexican-American Studies program, an American history course explores the role of Hispanics in the Vietnam War, and a literature course emphasizes Latino authors.

    Horne, a Republican running for attorney general, said the program promotes "ethnic chauvinism" and racial resentment toward whites while segregating students by race. He's been trying to restrict it ever since he learned that Hispanic civil rights activist Dolores Huerta told students in 2006 that "Republicans hate Latinos."

    District officials said the program doesn't promote resentment, and they believe it would comply with the new law.

    The measure doesn't prohibit classes that teach about the history of a particular ethnic group, as long as the course is open to all students and doesn't promote ethnic solidarity or resentment.

    About 1,500 students at six high schools are enrolled in the Tucson district's program. Elementary and middle school students also are exposed to the ethnic studies curriculum. The district is 56 percent Hispanic, with nearly 31,000 Latino students.
    Another bill targeting Hispanics and other minorities in Arizona with vague language. Who gets to decide whether a class 'promotes resentment'? If they learn about American support for the dictatorial PRI who killed hundreds of young students days before the Mexico City Olympics, does that promote 'resentment'? Thoughts?
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    Tricky situation, the problem is alot of people will believe that argument.

    But you know, in Canada we had a class called African-Canadian studies, and the vast majority of the class was white with some African-Canadians. And you know what, even with all the whites in the class, no black person ever said anything to us about how bad we should feel, in fact we use to talk quite openly about what happened, especially with Slavery and various other crimes that happened. You know when you're open, and just talk about things in a civilized manner, it really helps.

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    Re: Arizona gov. signs bill targeting ethnic studies

    Keep poking the hornet's nest Arizona.

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    Re: Arizona gov. signs bill targeting ethnic studies

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Another bill targeting Hispanics and other minorities in Arizona with vague language. Who gets to decide whether a class 'promotes resentment'?
    IMO it should be the school board who decides what elective classes it provides.

    If they learn about American support for the dictatorial PRI who killed hundreds of young students days before the Mexico City Olympics, does that promote 'resentment'? Thoughts?
    If anything it should be taught as an example of our disastrous foreign policy, not a white America vs Hispanic Mexico.
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    Re: Arizona gov. signs bill targeting ethnic studies

    I don't see anything wrong with this law, in fact I like it. I think it helps move America towards being American, not towards African-American, Mexican-American, White-American, etc. We should be one America of many races. I think this law is good, if only the Arizona government was the Federal Government

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    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with this law, in fact I like it. I think it helps move America towards being American, not towards African-American, Mexican-American, White-American, etc. We should be one America of many races. I think this law is good, if only the Arizona government was the Federal Government
    But that's only if you want to be the borg.

    Look, I am a staunchly proud South African, I value our progress and our history. I have learned all I can about it. I am also staunchly proud Briton. But when I moved to Canada, I wanted to become a Canadian, I learned their history too, and not just the WHITE history, but the black history, and the chinese Canadian history as well. All are part of the regions history, and the peoples history and heritage.

    I am a Proud South African, British, Canadian. And I have the capacity to be all 3

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    I never liked these ethnic studies classes. They only breed resentment and separation by race. This is a good idea, why?

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    Re: Arizona gov. signs bill targeting ethnic studies

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with this law, in fact I like it. I think it helps move America towards being American, not towards African-American, Mexican-American, White-American, etc. We should be one America of many races. I think this law is good, if only the Arizona government was the Federal Government
    I agree with you, to a point. I have real troubles in my mind with ethnic studies classes. However, as Hatuey pointed out, the law itself is way too vague. I don't like vagueness in laws. Further, just because I am uncomfortable with ethnic study classes does not mean they do not serve a purpose. Targetting them feels more like a political ploy for popularity than fixing some real problem that is best fixed at some other level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I agree with you, to a point. I have real troubles in my mind with ethnic studies classes. However, as Hatuey pointed out, the law itself is way too vague. I don't like vagueness in laws. Further, just because I am uncomfortable with ethnic study classes does not mean they do not serve a purpose. Targetting them feels more like a political ploy for popularity than fixing some real problem that is best fixed at some other level.
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    Re: Arizona gov. signs bill targeting ethnic studies

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But that's only if you want to be the borg.

    Look, I am a staunchly proud South African, I value our progress and our history. I have learned all I can about it. I am also staunchly proud Briton. But when I moved to Canada, I wanted to become a Canadian, I learned their history too, and not just the WHITE history, but the black history, and the chinese Canadian history as well. All are part of the regions history, and the peoples history and heritage.

    I am a Proud South African, British, Canadian. And I have the capacity to be all 3
    Shouldn't a country's history be a combination of everyone who contributed to that country, not divided up into different racial/ehtnic histories? The father of American black history hoped that one day that there would not need to be a separate race category but instead taught just like regular American history. Focusing on the race of someone only encourages racism and contradicts the idea that it does not matter what your skin color is.
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