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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    What message? That if you steal a cross you die?

    I'm personally glad you are in no position of power to make anything like that possible.
    That if you steal a religious war memorial to satisfy your political agenda you die horribly. The good news is that I don't have to be in a position of authority.

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    So stealing a cross somehow is giving this guy a death sentence to some of the Christians?


    And also how do we even know it was politically motivated? It could also be some kids doing a prank, and I am not saying it wasn't politically motivated I am just pointing that out.


    I disagreed with the supreme court on this thought I do not approve of what these crepes did in the first place. They broke the law, and I do think they deserve punishment, but the death penalty is going a Little bit too far, and basically going against the bill of rights.
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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    That if you steal a religious war memorial to satisfy your political agenda you die horribly. The good news is that I don't have to be in a position of authority.
    Again, I'm glad the people in power do not think like you and you are stuck with just making ridiculous statements that have no basis in the real world.

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not violent unless there is other people there whom are threatened. And then it's called robbery.
    Or if it's a burglary which involves the actual violent breaking and entering process. Violence doesn't just denote physical violence. And no folks I am not talking politically correctly like "emotional violence" etc.
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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Why punish them "severely"? Only a theft was committed. Just because you have some special attachment to a controversial object does not mean that the criminals who stole it are entitled to more time than any other theft would get.
    I have a special attachment to the justice system and the rule of law. It isn't about the cross; it's about the total disregard for our legal system.

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I have a special attachment to the justice system and the rule of law. It isn't about the cross; it's about the total disregard for our legal system.
    Couldn't the same be said of every crime?

    What makes this particular crime so special? I hope they catch the thieves and punish them in the usual manner. Giving "special treatment" to thieves only validates their stupid little protest as being somehow SPECIAL.
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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I have a special attachment to the justice system and the rule of law. It isn't about the cross; it's about the total disregard for our legal system.
    Exactly. Pretty much sums it up. Thank you.

    The Supreme Court ruled, the cross is now on private land (which I believe is what the ACLU is now questioning - whether the land deal was legal).

    Really, who didn't see this coming-the cross being stolen/desecrated?
    When people take it upon themselves to stomp all over a legal decision, we have a lawless society. The reason the cross was stolen doesn't matter.
    It's the act in of itself that matters. Whatever the reason, the fact remains that some clowns took it upon themselves to decide what should and shouldn't be in a legal decision that had nothing to do with them except their lack of control, maturity, and respect.


    As far as "hate" crimes, crime is crime. Theft is theft, murder is murder, etc.
    Attaching special "conditions" diminishes the victims/survivors who are not victims of "hate" crimes. Just when does murder, e.g., become elevated to a "hate" crime and thus more horrendous than a murder where no "hate" condition is attached?

    All this special interest/protection is ridiculous. Tell it to the parents who have had their children murdered but the crime is less serious because what - the children were heterosexual e.g.?

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Couldn't the same be said of every crime?
    No, some crimes are committed by mistake. Like speeding or unintentionally running a red light.

    What makes this particular crime so special?
    Nothing, yet. However, if it is discovered that this crime was committed because someone got butthurt over losing a court case, it deserves special treatment due to the contempt for the courts and the craven indifference to the rule of law.

    I hope they catch the thieves and punish them in the usual manner. Giving "special treatment" to thieves only validates their stupid little protest as being somehow SPECIAL.
    I prefer to see it as a validation of the courts when they are caught and get a contempt of court charge slapped on with it.

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
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    The controversial Mojave Desert Memorial Cross was stolen. The SCOTUS ruled that it was allowed to stay. I hope they apprehend the thieves and punish them severely.
    I hope a bigger and heavier cross is built if they can not find the stolen one. I thin those who stole it should be treated no different than any other thief who steals something of equal value.
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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    That if you steal a religious war memorial to satisfy your political agenda you die horribly. The good news is that I don't have to be in a position of authority.
    Wow, I didn't realize you were a Muslim!

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