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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Theft isn't a violent crime.


    (P.S. I'm mostly just messing with you. I agree that the idea of a hate crime is BS.)
    Theft can be. Especially if based in malice.
    (I figured that you were going somewhere with it btw)
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    No, what we don't do in the United States is punish people more severely because we disagree with their views.

    Oh wait! Yes we do! Thanks to Hate Crime legislation, you can punish people over and above what the normal punishment is simply because you don't like what they have to say, 1st amendment be damned.

    My bad.
    Blame your fellow liberals, us conservatives were against the hate crime legislation.

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I understand that there are hard feelings on both sides of this issue, but when one side resorts to theft, if politics turns out to be the reason (and we don't know yet), then they have destroyed any argument for their own cause, because they broke the law to make their point. On the other hand, we don't know the reason yet. If the thieves are caught, then we should have our answer.
    I think they could have stolen it for the value of the metal.

    Thieves are hauling copper wire from the ground, stealing sewer caps, this could be theft for the material.

    It's not like we're living in the greatest economic times.
    This might be a disgusting example of it.

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    They should be shot, drawn and quartered and heads on a pike. I don't care if it is extra-judicial. We need to send the right message.

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    They should be shot, drawn and quartered and heads on a pike. I don't care if it is extra-judicial. We need to send the right message.
    They just stole a monument out of political intolerance. They didn't commit treason, so cool it.

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I agree with you there.... hate crime enhancement sucks. Itís if nothing else, discriminatory.

    Let's see.... they committed criminal trespass, theft of an antique, desecration of a grave, desecration of a war memorial.... and I'm sure a smart DA. could find a 1/2 dozen other charges if he/she wanted to.

    Conviction of three felonies in California falls under the "three strikes law", and that means life in prison. I don't think a "hate crime "enhancement will be necessary.
    Three strikes doesn't mean three crimes from the same incident, but yeah, I'm sure a judge can find aggravating circumstances to give a harsher sentence than the average person charged with these crimes.

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Blame your fellow liberals, us conservatives were against the hate crime legislation.
    I do, and not all liberals agree with hate crime legislation.

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    Unhappy STOLEN: Disputed Mojave cross honoring US war dead

    This world sucks eggs. How pathetic and sad and crazy.

    LOS ANGELES (AP) - A cross erected on a remote Mojave Desert outcropping to honor American war dead has been stolen less than two weeks after the U.S. Supreme Court allowed it to remain standing while a legal battle continued over its presence on federal land.
    Versions of the memorial have been vandalized repeatedly in the last 75 years and the motive this time was not immediately known, but the theft was condemned Tuesday by veterans groups that support the cross and by civil libertarians that saw it as a violation of the constitutional separation of church and state.

    CONTINUED: Disputed Mojave cross honoring US war dead stolen - wtop.com
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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    They should be shot, drawn and quartered and heads on a pike. I don't care if it is extra-judicial. We need to send the right message.
    What message? That if you steal a cross you die?

    I'm personally glad you are in no position of power to make anything like that possible.

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    Re: Thieves Steal Mojave Desert Memorial Cross in Nighttime Heist

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Theft can be. Especially if based in malice.
    (I figured that you were going somewhere with it btw)
    It's not violent unless there is other people there whom are threatened. And then it's called robbery.
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