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    Re: In bid to save party, Brown says he will quit

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Which is why 99% of people don't respond to you. When produced with facts your reality trumps all. According to you - all things bad in the world are the result of right wing policies... no matter what the facts say.

    Back to the ignore list with you!

    Speaking of facts, you see to be lacking some of your own:
    1) 99% don't respond to Pete? Wow, where did you get that number?
    2) What "facts" were produced??? After all, you didn't dispute anything he said with facts of your own.
    2) He didn't say ALL things bad. He mentioned a few conservative traits that have caused problems in today's world. Why the need to exaggerate?

    As for Brown, he had to step down. It's unfortunate that comments that were only supposed to be said in private became common knowledge because of a live mike.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: In bid to save party, Brown says he will quit

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Speaking of facts, you see to be lacking some of your own:
    1) 99% don't respond to Pete? Wow, where did you get that number?
    2) What "facts" were produced??? After all, you didn't dispute anything he said with facts of your own.
    2) He didn't say ALL things bad. He mentioned a few conservative traits that have caused problems in today's world. Why the need to exaggerate?

    As for Brown, he had to step down. It's unfortunate that comments that were only supposed to be said in private became common knowledge because of a live mike.
    What actually is unfortunate that the UK had an unelected Prime Minister that would actually think these things, let alone open his big fat mouth and opine them.

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    Re: In bid to save party, Brown says he will quit

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    What actually is unfortunate that the UK had an unelected Prime Minister that would actually think these things, let alone open his big fat mouth and opine them.
    C'mon, jujuman. You do not make opinions about people in confidence? Stuff you wouldn't say publicly, but to a close friend?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: In bid to save party, Brown says he will quit

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has announced that he would resign "within months" if a Labour-Liberal Democrat coalition government could be formed.

    In bid to save party, Brown says he will quit - Europe- msnbc.com
    He should have left on Friday. Labour should have resigned with some dignity and moved aside for the Conservatives.
    They have the legitimate mandate to govern this country due to the number of seats and proportion of votes they have won is higher than any other party.
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    Re: In bid to save party, Brown says he will quit

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    As for Brown.. he is quite the political player.

    By doing this, getting a Lib Dem- Labour government is closer than getting a Lib-Dem - Conservative government.

    Like it or not, the Lib-Dems and Conservatives have very little in common, and the Conservatives do not want to change the electoral system as it would hurt them.
    So, how stable do you think a minority Labour/LibDem government is going to be? If that is the governing coalition, there will be new elections within a year.
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    Re: In bid to save party, Brown says he will quit

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    So, how stable do you think a minority Labour/LibDem government is going to be? If that is the governing coalition, there will be new elections within a year.
    A lib/lab coalition would not be stable and personally, I would prefer a second election to occur than UK be held at ransom by the nationalists.
    If Lib Dems have any sense right now, they will support the Conservatives. If they prop up a Labour Government, voters will punish them.

    It has only been what? 4 days and I am already fed up with this political vaccum.
    If this is what PR brings then I do not want it ever introduced.


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    Re: In bid to save party, Brown says he will quit

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    A lib/lab coalition would not be stable and personally, I would prefer a second election to occur than UK be held at ransom by the nationalists.
    If Lib Dems have any sense right now, they will support the Conservatives. If they prop up a Labour Government, voters will punish them.
    The Conservatives have offerred a reasonable compromise on what seems to be their most important issue. BBC news said they offered a public referendum on the issue. Sounds more than fair to me.

    It has only been what? 4 days and I am already fed up with this political vaccum.
    If this is what PR brings then I do not want it ever introduced.
    Every election would see a hung parliament under PR. I think this exercise will turn Brits away from such a change to the election system as proposed by the LibDems.
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    Re: In bid to save party, Brown says he will quit

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The Conservatives have offerred a reasonable compromise on what seems to be their most important issue. BBC news said they offered a public referendum on the issue. Sounds more than fair to me.

    Every election would see a hung parliament under PR. I think this exercise will turn Brits away from such a change to the election system as proposed by the LibDems.
    Of course it is.
    It would be arrogant of the Lib Dems to wish for a electoral reform without even consulting the public as to whether they want it to begin with.
    And honestly, I doubt electoral reform is in the top 5 things the British public are concerned about. I'm more worried over our deficit than whether we vote under PR or AV or STV.

    It has worked on me so yes, it is a safe bet that others in the country are getting a bit fed up with this political horsetrading and to think this may last till next week


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    Re: In bid to save party, Brown says he will quit

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Of course it is.
    It would be arrogant of the Lib Dems to wish for a electoral reform without even consulting the public as to whether they want it to begin with.
    And honestly, I doubt electoral reform is in the top 5 things the British public are concerned about. I'm more worried over our deficit than whether we vote under PR or AV or STV.
    As they are the number 3 party, it isn't like they have a mandate to pursue such electoral reform as it is. And I think you are right, though you are in a better position than me, though from what I read in British papers online and what I hear on the BBC, you are absolutely right about the issues of import.

    It has worked on me so yes, it is a safe bet that others in the country are getting a bit fed up with this political horsetrading and to think this may last till next week
    It sounds great in theory, but reality bites sometimes... There are things that can be fixed, but Britain's election system has worked for a long time. I don't see any need to make wholesale changes to it.
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    Re: In bid to save party, Brown says he will quit

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    As for Brown, he had to step down. It's unfortunate that comments that were only supposed to be said in private became common knowledge because of a live mike.
    Perhaps people are happy they were able to catch a glimpse of the "real" Brown.

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