Women (Nasty or otherwise) are going to be the reason that Donald Trump is NEVER President!
Saying a prayer is not endorsing a national religion. So therefore its perfectly within the realm of these people at this meeting to say a 30 second prayer before eating.
It has nothing to do with being weak minded. It has nothing to do with sticking a thumb in governments eye. Its none of that crap alot of people on this thread have said it is.
Ever heard of FCA in public schools? Fellowship of Christian Athletes? How come they are allowed in public schools? Isn't that endorsing religion? You got to understand what the 1st Amendment means, history wise, before you just start throwing around a phrase that was written 30 years after the Constitution was put in place and that phrase is "Seperation of Church and State".
That phrase, has no bearing on the 1st Amendment as it is nowhere to be found within it. It was a private letter written to some Bishops in what 1812 or something like that?
I fail to see how the occurrence of prayer, be it in school, opening of the legislature, grace before a meal, etc., threatens to break the church/state boundary.
In my view, people that are threatened by prayer should spend more time in prayer.
30 seconds would be a sermon. 5 seconds is plenty of time to say grace.
I love the smell of face-palm in the morning!
"You ain't no Muslim bruv!"
Plenty of seniors are atheist, agnostic, or of other than christian faith.
The whole 'leading in prayer before meals" thing is rude, disrespectful, and alienating; not that I'd expect a bunch of Christians to recognize that. They're pretty oblivious. Even if they did recognize it, they no doubt wouldn't care, since in their version of reality, they are the only ones whose feelings count.
I'm glad they've been stopped.
Sorry prayer isn't as much fun when you don't get to harass, intimidate, annoy, and badger your neighbors with it, Gramps.
I'm sure everybody else at the senior center will now have much more pleasant and peaceful mealtimes, however.
Last edited by Morality Games; 05-11-10 at 12:59 AM.
If you notice something good in yourself, give credit to God, not to yourself, but be certain the evil you commit is always your own and yours to acknowledge.