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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Religion is of the supernatural realm. I would rather keep the supernatural in my own mind and talk about reality and natural things.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Religion is of the supernatural realm. I would rather keep the supernatural in my own mind and talk about reality and natural things.

    maybe that is good enough for you, that's fine. No one would ever tell you that you must believe anything you don't wish to. Now turn it around, why the old people man? That was just low.


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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    maybe that is good enough for you, that's fine. No one would ever tell you that you must believe anything you don't wish to. Now turn it around, why the old people man? That was just low.


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    I have no idea of what you just said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I have no idea of what you just said.

    I said that you believe that its a 'supernatural' thing, and that's fine. What ever it is, it gives comfort to these old people in GA. Why would someone want to mess with that?


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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Pissing in the swimming pool may give comfort to an individual, but not to those forced to swim with them.
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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Pissing in the swimming pool may give comfort to an individual, but not to those forced to swim with them.

    So you see religion akin to pissing on someone? Telling.


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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Pissing in the swimming pool may give comfort to an individual, but not to those forced to swim with them.
    Ah so now people were compelled to pray......see that changes the whole thing. Wait.....what? It was 100% voluntary? So no one was forced to pray? Ah, so then you're misrepresenting the issue. The fact is that these people were invited to voluntarily pray, which means that those who didn't want to didn't have to, which means that there was no attempt to establish religion. All that means that the seniors had the right to pray, and have it led by someone, and that right was violated.
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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Here's something that needs to be noted:

    It wasn't the federal government that imposed this rule. It was a private organization. This private organization has every right to impose such rules (even if, as is the case here, these rules are based on a silly misinterpretation).

    Is it a silly rule? Yes.

    Is it their right to have silly rules? Yes.
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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is there some all encompassing discussion that you have that hinges on saving the world from something wishing to destroy it? Some all important discussion that you feel the need to disrespect others, while at the same time demanding that they respect you? You know just because you don't believe what others do doesn't mean that you, or they are right, it is just a simple respect given another in this world.
    Really? Because I didn't hear word one from you about my particular rights here, nor any modicum of respect towards me. Quite the contrary, actually. You steadfastly maintain that I should observe and participate in a religious ceremony in which I have no interest in participating. Add to the fact that this was a public place, and those individuals engaging in their particular religious ceremony were demanding me to stop my conversation and observe their particular brand of ideology by ceasing said conversation...yeah, no thank you.

    What you're failing to understand is that the days of this sorta stuff are rapidly coming to an end, and because of the very same argument you are putting forth against my position. You maintain that public prayer should not only be allowed, but those of us who don't buy into your particular ideology should observe and participate. Too bad if we don't believe; to you, we are in the wrong, and we should either start prayin' or stay out of public areas.

    No thanks. Pray in public all you want, but don't expect me to participate or leave because you dislike me chatting it up while you want the world to be silent in respect for your deity.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I feel sorry for you having to live in a place where you are the extreme minority based on your belief of nothing, fore you therefore are subject to believe anything. Oh wait, you aren't forced are you? You could just leave.


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    Ah yes, I was wondering when the Utilitarian argument was gonna make an appearance, that atheists are some 'extreme minority' and therefore we should bow to the apparent overwhelming majority of religious zealots. And if we don't? Your suggestion is that we simply 'leave'. No thanks. See, like you, I pay my taxes. Unlike you, I don't force my atheism onto other folks, nor expect them to be quiet while me and my friends are discussing, say, Richard Dawkins in a public arena. And since this was a public event, and my money was just as good as his, I did what any red-blooded American should do in such a situation. Removing the colorful language, I basically told him to shut up and mind his own business.

    How's that for free speech?

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    What about the intolerance by the members who wanted to pray against the members who wanted them to STFU.

    What if I were at the table and wanted to discuss my beliefs about synchronicity instead of of praying to their god? Would they have sat their while I lectured them on Carl Jung?

    What about the beliefs of someone different than their own? Would they have tolerance for that? I think not.

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