I think you may have the story wrong here. The government is subsidizing the meal that is delivered through a private contractor to the home, that gets it's subsidy from the federal government. Not the home itself.
Secondly, the employees that noticed the resident praying before the meal seem to be the ones offended here, not the government as they reversed the decision made by the over zealous food provider.
Lastly, if saying grace before a meal is some sort of melding of state and religion just because the meal is paid for by the federal government, then I think you would have to show me where the government agent was making them pray, or leading the prayer. Other than that all we have here is some liberal jerk that doesn't like this sort of thing, and picked an easy target to pick on. They should be ashamed.
No no...I was speaking of the employee of Senior Citizens Inc. that provides the meals, that blew the whistle on this.
Take a good reading of the positions taken in here on this question, and you tell me how to those opposed to letting these people have their prayer before lunch line up in the political spectrum?BTW, why do you think it was a liberal?
Last edited by j-mac; 05-16-10 at 01:47 PM.
Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.
God bless you all.
No, 'we' don't lose when you take what i'm saying as a poor substitute for intelligent discourse - you do. Your opinion is that me and the others who do not wish to participate in your religious public ceremony should be silent and observe, which is in effect you telling me that I should participate. That's the same argument you types always put up claiming to be in defense of your religion, and until you understand that this is exactly why you keep seeing more and more removal of religious ideology from public institutions and locations, I expect these kind of threads will continue.
Furthermore, you speak of my viewpoint as being narcissistic simply because I don't wish to be forced into silence in a public place over a religious ideology that I don't believe in. That's absolutely ridiculous. I'm not saying abolish your ceremonies in public. I'm saying STOP forcing me to be quiet and participate, observe, or whatever. If you can't accept the fact that there are many other people on this planet who do not want to participate in your religion, again, be prepared to see your public religious ceremonies removed. In other words, stop telling me to be quiet when you're having your public prayer. My conversation was already taking place, anyway, so the reality of the situation is that they interrupted me.
Oh, and regarding your belief that I feel guilty by failing to participate in or observe your particular religious ceremonies, nice try. Since we are apparently into hurling rampant generalizations about one another, perhaps it is you that feels guilty for devoting such attention to some nonexistent superbeing? If so, perhaps you would be less crestfallen if you were to devote your attention to a much cooler entity, such as the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Pastafarianism is all the rage these days.
Is there some all encompassing discussion that you have that hinges on saving the world from something wishing to destroy it? Some all important discussion that you feel the need to disrespect others, while at the same time demanding that they respect you? You know just because you don't believe what others do doesn't mean that you, or they are right, it is just a simple respect given another in this world.
I feel sorry for you having to live in a place where you are the extreme minority based on your belief of nothing, fore you therefore are subject to believe anything. Oh wait, you aren't forced are you? You could just leave.