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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    may i have permission to use the hi-lited segment of that post in my signature?
    Go ahead. It will be an everlasting testament to your ignorance of basic Constitutional law.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

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    Go ahead. It will be an everlasting testament to your ignorance of basic Constitutional law.
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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    thank you
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    Have fun. Maybe someone else will inform you that the US Constitution is a restriction on government and not individuals.

    And you still haven't told me which provision these individuals or third parties are supposedly bound by. Care to give it a shot?
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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    It depends, I suppose. If the Congress appropriates funds and imposes such a precondition on the dispensation and usage of those funds, it could reasonably be viewed as "prohibiting the free exercise thereof." I'm not saying this is the correct view, just one that could be reasonably held.
    The prohibition would be situation dependent so there is no prohibition of free exercise.



    Congress appropriates funds to the military, too. Do you think restricting the presence of Chaplains or religious services in the military would be supported by your premise?
    It's a volunteer army. If there was such a law passed, no rights would be violated.


    But I think the presence of chaplains and religious services should exist with the military based on the fact that we are expecting men and women to risk their lives for their nation and as such, we should provide them spiritual guidance if requested.
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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The prohibition would be situation dependent so there is no prohibition of free exercise.





    It's a volunteer army. If there was such a law passed, no rights would be violated.


    But I think the presence of chaplains and religious services should exist with the military based on the fact that we are expecting men and women to risk their lives for their nation and as such, we should provide them spiritual guidance if requested.

    Good talk.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    On what basis is the money being withdrawn? If the Congress appropriates funds via an enactment of legislation, some bureaucrat cannot simply ignore the terms and conditions of that appropriation; only by another enactment or vote may the Congress withdraw funding. As it stands, this funding is lawful, and the manner it which it is to be dispensed has been contractually specified; imposing rules after the fact is unlawful, and no government bureaucrat has the authority to withdraw funding that was approved by an act of Congress.
    Check the supreme court decisions on school prayer. One of them

    http://www.oyez.org/cases/1960-1969/1962/1962_142
    Last edited by LiberalAvenger; 05-13-10 at 05:56 PM.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Check the supreme court decisions on school prayer. One of them

    Abington School District v. Schempp, U.S. Supreme Court Case Summary & Oral Argument
    Has no relevance to the current discussion. Mandatory prayer in public schools is totally different from optional prayers in a private charity's dinner.

    I hope you are able to see the distinction.

    By the way, you do realize they've reversed their decision, correct? There is no legal standing to forbid these group prayers, otherwise it would have already been done.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    Has no relevance to the current discussion. Mandatory prayer in public schools is totally different from optional prayers in a private charity's dinner.

    I hope you are able to see the distinction.

    By the way, you do realize they've reversed their decision, correct? There is no legal standing to forbid these group prayers, otherwise it would have already been done.
    No I didn't realize that. Link?

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    No I didn't realize that. Link?
    Prayer restored at Port Wentworth Senior Center | savannahnow.com

    Reading the thread usually helps... : P

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    I was asking for a supreme court decision link regarding this matter. Until then

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