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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I guess you've never been the person sitting there uncomfortably while other people assume you are one of the group and subject you to a religious service you didn't sign up for. I lived in Utah as a Southern Baptist, and experienced it all the time, which is what largely influenced my views on the subject.

    A few thoughts:

    First, public prayers for the sake of being public about them are expressly forbidden, BY CHRIST, in the New Testament.

    Second, what is the goal of such conduct, if it is not rewarded by God? Generally speaking, it is done because the believers are so inconsiderate that they feel they must subject other people to their practices.

    Third, what does such behavior do for the cause of Christ? Be specific. What is this sort of public prayer designed to accomplish, in your opinion? I'd really like to know.
    No one cares about your interpretation of the Bible. The cogent argument concerns the legality and Constitutionality of a group prayer being held during a Federally-funded meal for seniors. Since the First Amendment only forbids "laws respecting an establishment of religion", we can safely assume that no such violation has occurred, and that rabid anti-religionists like yourself are getting bent out of shape for nothing.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    No one cares about your interpretation of the Bible. The cogent argument concerns the legality and Constitutionality of a group prayer being held during a Federally-funded meal for seniors. Since the First Amendment only forbids "laws respecting an establishment of religion", we can safely assume that no such violation has occurred, and that rabid anti-religionists like yourself are getting bent out of shape for nothing.
    You don't know catz very well if you think she is anti-religious. She has more spirituality in her buns then you do in your pud.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    It's necessary for someone to publicly object for a practice to be unconstitutional? Your reasoning is flawed, padawan.
    Show me which part of the Constitution is being violated here.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    You don't know catz very well if you think she is anti-religious. She has more spirituality in her buns then you do in your pud.
    Her anti-religious nature has been made manifestly obvious by her incessant desire to demonize these old people for wanting to have a public prayer prior to their meal.

    As for having more spirituality than me, I don't doubt that at all, as I am mostly an intellectual person; I like cold, hard empiricism, facts and physical phenomena.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    Her anti-religious nature has been made manifestly obvious by her incessant desire to demonize these old people for wanting to have a public prayer prior to their meal.

    As for having more spirituality than me, I don't doubt that at all, as I am mostly an intellectual person; I like cold, hard empiricism, facts and physical phenomena.
    You have no reading comprehension. That is not what she said.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I am saying they are not following these teachings:

    6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
    6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
    Take it up with Jesus then. I could care less.

    Try addressing the actual issue at hand, that is, the Constitutionality of this group-lead prayer.

    So they are clamoring for private prayer, now, are they?
    I don't see any "clamoring". All I see is some old folks gently disagreeing with a government-imposed ban on public prayer during their meals.

    Twice, now.
    Well, aren't you special?

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Would you do me a solid and venture into the European section and tell the other leftists that I am part of their unthinking mob?

    They might not disavow me if you put in the right kind of word.
    So you disagree with them on something. Good for you, chief. You're only batting .900 in the leftist world. Congrats.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    Her anti-religious nature has been made manifestly obvious by her incessant desire to demonize these old people for wanting to have a public prayer prior to their meal.

    As for having more spirituality than me, I don't doubt that at all, as I am mostly an intellectual person; I like cold, hard empiricism, facts and physical phenomena.
    Are you sure you like it COLD and hard?
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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    The whole public prayer thing really is obnoxious. I'm not suggesting they should not be able to do it or anything, but it's odd why so many people feel the need for validation of their faith. As if it's only the way, the truth and the light if others agree.
    This is why I hate it when some people say that gays (or other groups) are "shoving their lifestyle in my face".

    The only people I know who shove their lifestyle in my face are certain sects of Christianity who have to pray in public, buy billboards telling everyone else they're going to hell, and put bumper stickers on their car about how much they love Jesus.

    In my life, the people who shout the loudest about how good they are at something are usually not the best at it at all.

    Why do you think monks and nuns frequently take vows of silence? I'm sure they're much more spiritual and Christ-like than the person with their "Abortion Stops a Beating Heart" and "God Made Adam and Eve Not Adam and Steve" bumper stickers. I KNOW they're a lot more Christ-like than the person who paid for all the "Hell is Real" and 10 Commandments billboards in Kentucky.

    Pray, now, damn you! Pray!

    Not once in my life has a Jew or a Gay knocked on my door to convince me to live their "lifestyle". I wish everyone would do the same.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post

    Not once in my life has a Jew or a Gay knocked on my door to convince me to live their "lifestyle". .
    Well, if you do, be advised -- their literature is VERY different from one another.
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