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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    As crippling as yours.

    So tell me, from your vast legal experience, how does something become unconstitutional. What process has to be followed?
    So, you're suggesting that once a legal precedent has been set, cases have to be continually re-tried in order to re-establish that precedent?

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    now there is a civil standard to apply
    if the elderly are intimidated enough not to object then the evangelists should be able to continue to feed their religious propaganda to this crowd
    And you have no clue whether anyone objected to the prayer or if they were intimidated .... pulling theories out of your arse does not help your position.

    Based on my experience with the elderly in the south, I would be willing to bet that every single person in that home welcomes the prayer.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    I see the senior center has reversed its decision, and will allow the prayers. Hopefully, some angry atheist won't take them to court.

    FOXNews.com - Prayers Answered: Seniors Can Pray Before Meals at Georgia Center

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    Like I said, it doesn't really matter to me which interpretation is the "correct" one. I'm an agnostic, but, unlike the unthinking leftist mob, I don't feel obligated to attack religiosity at every opportunity.
    Would you do me a solid and venture into the European section and tell the other leftists that I am part of their unthinking mob?

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense! You can't come up with anyone who objected other than the lib that raised a stink in the service company that delivers the food, so you ascribe this feigned outrage to every resident? sorry, that is weak.
    I have no outrage for anyone, feigned or otherwise. You asked who was forced to sit there, and I told you: Everyone who wanted to eat.

    Ah BS! You just don't like organized religion so you feel that it should be destroyed period.
    Is this seriously your "debate" tactic? Just makin' **** up and telling your opponent that's how they feel?

    This could be fun. Okay, what am I feeling... Now!?

    sure you do....I will pray for you right now, and my bet is that you will be offended....And I am not even anywhere near you.
    Why would I be offended? Not only is offending me next to impossible, but if someone was thinking good thoughts for me, why would that offend me?

    You are a strange fella.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I never said I objected to the federal government subsidizing their food. Where did you get that idea from??

    Do you believe that people on medicare in a hospital should be denied a priest ?? What about a dying veteran in a VA hospital?? Should preachers be banned from VA hospitals ???
    Here's where it gets tough, so I'll explain it for you.

    In a VA hospital, a dying patient has the OPTION to ask for a priest or preacher. One is not FORCED to pray over him. A Muslim solider can ask for an Imam and a Jewish solider can ask for a Rabbi. An agnostic soldier can ask for his best friend, his wife, or his mom, or for the Mother Earth to say something nice for him.

    OPTIONS. A center-led group prayer isn't an OPTION. That's a forced prayer.

    A moment of silence or bowed heads or whatever gives everyone the option to do as they wish before their government supported meal.

    NO ONE was forced NOT to pray. To say so is an out and out lie.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Who really cares if someone says a silent prayer over their food? Only the very small minded, that is who....
    I have had lunch with friends and coworkers who have done that, felt no offense, as none was intended.
    If you are constantly looking for an excuse to whine, you will find excuses to do just that.

    OTOH, in our family, we were reluctant to have my MIL bless the food. By the time she was done, the food was cold.
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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Look at you, idealistically thinking that Christians actually pay attention to the Bible when it conflicts with their desire to impose their beliefs on other people and show how holy they are. I find it rather sweet, actually.
    I AM very sweet.

    My dog keeps licking me, anyway.
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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Here's where it gets tough, so I'll explain it for you.

    In a VA hospital, a dying patient has the OPTION to ask for a priest or preacher. One is not FORCED to pray over him. A Muslim solider can ask for an Imam and a Jewish solider can ask for a Rabbi. An agnostic soldier can ask for his best friend, his wife, or his mom, or for the Mother Earth to say something nice for him.

    OPTIONS. A center-led group prayer isn't an OPTION. That's a forced prayer.

    A moment of silence or bowed heads or whatever gives everyone the option to do as they wish before their government supported meal.

    NO ONE was forced NOT to pray. To say so is an out and out lie.
    So you have no objection to the federal government paying for a priest then ??? What about when Obama says "God Bless America" at the end of a speech?? Is he forcing everyone listening to hear his brief "prayer"? What about when Congress opens a session with a prayer?? Should that be illegal??

    The people in the home do have the option to hear or participate in the prayer. If they are so offended, as many on here think, they simply should wait until after the prayer is finished before coming into the dining hall. Is that too much an imposition ???

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I AM very sweet.

    My dog keeps licking me, anyway.
    I think that's the peanut butter, dude.

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