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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Hardly flawed - if no one complains, it can never get to be found unconstitutional as it would never be put in front of a judge. You're "belief" and "opinion" nonwithstanding.
    You don't understand the use of case law, do you?

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Every single person who wanted to eat their food.

    Nonsense! You can't come up with anyone who objected other than the lib that raised a stink in the service company that delivers the food, so you ascribe this feigned outrage to every resident? sorry, that is weak.


    A state run, or funded institution should not have staff leading people in prayer. Period. Same as in schools.

    Ah BS! You just don't like organized religion so you feel that it should be destroyed period.


    As long as the staff isn't leading people in prayer, I don't give a flying **** about it.

    sure you do....I will pray for you right now, and my bet is that you will be offended....And I am not even anywhere near you.


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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You don't understand the use of case law, do you?
    You don't understand the Constitution do you?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You don't understand the Constitution do you?
    Wow. That was some crippling comeback there.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    Ah, you're implying they are not Christians because they practice their religion differently than you do; how tolerant of you, Mr. Liberal.
    I am saying they are not following these teachings:


    6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
    6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.


    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    You're also engaging in hyperbolic misrepresentation by characterizing their gentle criticisms as "clamoring for public prayer".
    So they are clamoring for private prayer, now, are they?



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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You don't understand the Constitution do you?
    Clearly you don't.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    If it's a group prayer, then you're forced to listen to it if you're there.

    So, if you've got a problem with the government delivering food, I've got a problem with the government or a federally supported center delivering Jesus.

    It's not their job.

    If you take government money, then you can't deliver Jesus. If you use only private donated funds, make people pray to Jesus all you like.

    Look, I used to work for a Presbyterian college. I, myself, was not Presbyterian. I go to the Episcopal Church when I choose to. Because the school gave out federal assistance, they couldn't force professors or students to attend chapel. Down the road was a Baptists school that took no federal dollars. If you didn't attend chapel without good reason you were fired or suspended.

    I'm fine with both. Once you take government assistance, the rules change. Accept it or don't accept federal assistance.
    I never said I objected to the federal government subsidizing their food. Where did you get that idea from??

    Do you believe that people on medicare in a hospital should be denied a priest ?? What about a dying veteran in a VA hospital?? Should preachers be banned from VA hospitals ???

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Wow. That was some crippling comeback there.
    As crippling as yours.

    So tell me, from your vast legal experience, how does something become unconstitutional. What process has to be followed?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Clearly you don't.
    Apparently, you're unaware that for something to be declared unconstitutional, it must be put in front of a judge. Because you "say so", doesn't make it so.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I am saying they are not following these teachings:

    6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
    6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
    Look at you, idealistically thinking that Christians actually pay attention to the Bible when it conflicts with their desire to impose their beliefs on other people and show how holy they are. I find it rather sweet, actually.

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