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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Just wait until the Messiah Care really kicks in and the realization that those people are worth more to the government dead than alive.

    They'll be praying for the meals, not over them.
    Good grief. Let's stay on topic.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Um, did you even bother to read the last link I put up?



    Sounds like the state had told them they couldn't do it. Now that has been reversed.
    No, they did NOT tell them they couldn't pray.


    Look, I understand your butt hurt over the correct reading of the law, but that is no cause to sell your soul to the devil.
    So do you think they'd fight for my "right for group prayer" if I demanded group satanic prayer, or not? Wiccan? Muslim?

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, they did NOT tell them they couldn't pray.



    So do you think they'd fight for my "right for group prayer" if I demanded group satanic prayer, or not? Wiccan? Muslim?
    Did you fight for their right for group prayer ??

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wow! what do you envision? Some authoritarian type in a white coat standing over every table with a riding crop in hand yelling, "I said pray dammit!!!!"
    Uhh... no, that's not what I said at all. I said people are forced to sit there and listen to their nonsense. No one can force anyone to pray, just like no one can STOP anyone from praying.

    As for your right to chant from the book of Satan before eating your meal, it is clear that the only reason you would wish to do that is to cause disruption because you loath those that don't think like you do. My guess though is that no one would stop you.
    LMFAO You really think no one would stop me? You're ****ing insane if you do. You're also ****ing insane if you think they'd taken it to the Mayor if I had been told to stop my pre-dinner summon Lucifer rituals as a group.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Did you fight for their right for group prayer ??
    What does that have to do with pointing out hypocrisy?

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I guess you've never been the person sitting there uncomfortably while other people assume you are one of the group and subject you to a religious service you didn't sign up for. I lived in Utah as a Southern Baptist, and experienced it all the time, which is what largely influenced my views on the subject.

    I grew up Roman Catholic, so there may have been all sorts of things 'forced' on me....(ba boom!) No seriously, unwanted proselytizing can be an annoyance for sure, but not life altering unless you allow it to be.


    A few thoughts:

    First, public prayers for the sake of being public about them are expressly forbidden, BY CHRIST, in the New Testament.

    This is your interoperation of the scriptures. Which I am positive the scriptures also say there can be none of.


    Second, what is the goal of such conduct, if it is not rewarded by God? Generally speaking, it is done because the believers are so inconsiderate that they feel they must subject other people to their practices.

    Again, you are looking at this as though you were offended personally. Again I ask you to come up with one resident who publicly claimed they were offended, or "forced" to endure such a hardship as a prayer before their meal? Can you? In fact I would venture a guess that the resident were fore square in favor of the prayer which is why the Mayor of the town made a personal appearance and pledge that he would get to work to overturn this.

    That being the case, I would ask why it is that liberals feel it their duty to force their beliefs on people that had no complaint to begin with?


    Third, what does such behavior do for the cause of Christ? Be specific. What is this sort of public prayer designed to accomplish, in your opinion? I'd really like to know.

    Spiritual guidance can be a great comfort to those in the end stages of their lives. More than one study has shown over and over, that people entering the latter years of life often turn to their faith as a comfort, and solace. This was a group of seniors within their own facility offering a prayer before lunch for heavens sake. Not some sandwich board wearing homeless man in the park screaming 'repent'!!!

    And even if it was, what makes you libs so scared of prayer that you feel you must take it away?


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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, they did NOT tell them they couldn't pray.
    Ok, for a 3rd time, lets see what the state told them over the years:

    “Over our years of service, we have been instructed, as recently as two weeks ago, by the state regulatory agency that verbal prayer was not allowed at any senior center..."
    What does that sound like to you? An endorsement to pray?

    So do you think they'd fight for my "right for group prayer" if I demanded group satanic prayer, or not? Wiccan? Muslim?
    Well of course they wouldn't, b/c your sole purpose for doing so would be to create mischief, for the sole purpose of instigating or irritating others. In this case, a bunch of old people who aren't out to insult others, but simply say a prayer over their meal.

    I find it more amazing you feel threatened by their prayer, when your not even in the same freaking state they are. Are you Muslim? Are you a devil worshipper? If not, then why would you bother with a prayer in Islam or in satanic verses? Pretty ridiculous if you think about it.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And even if it was, what makes you libs so scared of prayer that you feel you must take it away?

    No one took away. They are free to pray to any fairy or leprechaun they want to any time they want to. Always have been, always will be. It's not physically possible to 'take away' prayer.

    And LOL@calling me a 'lib'

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Uhh... no, that's not what I said at all. I said people are forced to sit there and listen to their nonsense. No one can force anyone to pray, just like no one can STOP anyone from praying.
    Really? Can you please show us, where they were "made" to sit through a 5 second prayer?

    And why is this "nonsense"? It's not "nonsense" to them. They find it pretty important obviously. Why do you feel threatened about their prayer that you weren't even a part of?


    LMFAO You really think no one would stop me? You're ****ing insane if you do. You're also ****ing insane if you think they'd taken it to the Mayor if I had been told to stop my pre-dinner summon Lucifer rituals as a group.
    Of course they would. Your doing it simply to stick a thumb in their eyes. You would be considered an instigator for the sole purpose of irritating others, which by and large, would get you kicked out of just about any venue.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No seriously, unwanted proselytizing can be an annoyance for sure, but not life altering unless you allow it to be.
    What if you had to listen to it daily in order to eat? Why does their right to protestlytize outweigh your right to eat your meal in peace?

    This is your interoperation of the scriptures. Which I am positive the scriptures also say there can be none of.
    No. It's said, point blank. People gave you the references. I know Catholics aren't strong on quoting scripture, but TRY. Find a verse that justifies government-sponsored prayers in a public setting.

    In fact I would venture a guess that the resident were fore square in favor of the prayer which is why the Mayor of the town made a personal appearance and pledge that he would get to work to overturn this.
    Those who weren't in favor would likely face a personal backlash from the believers, who feel that their beliefs are more important than anyone else's.

    Spiritual guidance can be a great comfort to those in the end stages of their lives. More than one study has shown over and over, that people entering the latter years of life often turn to their faith as a comfort, and solace. This was a group of seniors within their own facility offering a prayer before lunch for heavens sake. Not some sandwich board wearing homeless man in the park screaming 'repent'!!!
    Prove that a publicly offered prayer provides "spiritual guidance."

    And even if it was, what makes you libs so scared of prayer that you feel you must take it away?
    We never had group-lead prayers in my school. I still managed to pray all the time. You must not do a lot of praying if you believe that prayer is something that can EVER be taken from you.

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