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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Again, your wrong.

    As the old people's home and the correct reading of the law has won the day:

    Hot Air Georgia retirement home: Okay, on second thought, go ahead and pray before meals



    So you see, the government does not have to be seperate from religion. It cannot stop the free exercise thereof.

    Exactly. And I am glad that these seniors, many of whom only have those around them for comfort, and aid, are able to say grace before the meal as they wish now without some snarky liberal government dunderhead telling them they can't.


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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    So you see, the government does not have to be seperate from religion. It cannot stop the free exercise thereof.
    Nor should it be allowed to.
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Interesting. So no one was stopping them from praying before, and no one is stopping them from praying now. The only difference is that now, everyone else is forced to sit there and listen to their babbling.

    I do have to wonder if they'd be so willing to fight for my "right to group prayer" if I wanted to have a group satanic prayer and made everyone else sit there and listen to it.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Isn't this going just a bit too far?


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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Interesting. So no one was stopping them from praying before, and no one is stopping them from praying now. The only difference is that now, everyone else is forced to sit there and listen to their babbling.

    I do have to wonder if they'd be so willing to fight for my "right to group prayer" if I wanted to have a group satanic prayer and made everyone else sit there and listen to it.
    They would probably do what you should do if you don't like their prayer.. walk out and don't listen to it.

    I'd be willing to bet that every single person in that retirement home is happy to pray before the meals.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    It's going too far for federal dollars to be giving them food.
    I thought liberals were happy that the federal government provides for those in need ???

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who was being "forced"? I didn't read anywhere in that story where residents complained, did you?

    So then you are basing your argument for, or against on something you can't discern happened. I believe that is called a strawman.
    I guess you've never been the person sitting there uncomfortably while other people assume you are one of the group and subject you to a religious service you didn't sign up for. I lived in Utah as a Southern Baptist, and experienced it all the time, which is what largely influenced my views on the subject.

    A few thoughts:

    First, public prayers for the sake of being public about them are expressly forbidden, BY CHRIST, in the New Testament.

    Second, what is the goal of such conduct, if it is not rewarded by God? Generally speaking, it is done because the believers are so inconsiderate that they feel they must subject other people to their practices.

    Third, what does such behavior do for the cause of Christ? Be specific. What is this sort of public prayer designed to accomplish, in your opinion? I'd really like to know.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Interesting. So no one was stopping them from praying before, and no one is stopping them from praying now. The only difference is that now, everyone else is forced to sit there and listen to their babbling.
    Um, did you even bother to read the last link I put up?

    Over our years of service, we have been instructed, as recently as two weeks ago, by the state regulatory agency that verbal prayer was not allowed at any senior center. We are so pleased to say that we have been contacted a few minutes ago by the new Director of Aging clarifying the regulation and reversing the position of new verbal prayer..."
    Sounds like the state had told them they couldn't do it. Now that has been reversed.

    I do have to wonder if they'd be so willing to fight for my "right to group prayer" if I wanted to have a group satanic prayer and made everyone else sit there and listen to it.
    Look, I understand your butt hurt over the correct reading of the law, but that is no cause to sell your soul to the devil.

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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

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    I do have to wonder if they'd be so willing to fight for my "right to group prayer" if I wanted to have a group satanic prayer and made everyone else sit there and listen to it.
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    Re: Ga. Seniors Told They Can't Pray Before Meals

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Interesting. So no one was stopping them from praying before, and no one is stopping them from praying now. The only difference is that now, everyone else is forced to sit there and listen to their babbling.

    I do have to wonder if they'd be so willing to fight for my "right to group prayer" if I wanted to have a group satanic prayer and made everyone else sit there and listen to it.

    Wow! what do you envision? Some authoritarian type in a white coat standing over every table with a riding crop in hand yelling, "I said pray dammit!!!!"


    As for your right to chant from the book of Satan before eating your meal, it is clear that the only reason you would wish to do that is to cause disruption because you loath those that don't think like you do. My guess though is that no one would stop you.


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