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Los Angeles Gun Buyback Program Takes In Over 2,000 Weapons

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A ridiculous and ineffectual waste of money; a silly publicity stunt made to assuage naive gun-grabbers.
 
1984 said:
A ridiculous and ineffectual waste of money; a silly publicity stunt made to assuage naive gun-grabbers.
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**Shrug** Again, I'd like to see if it has any impact on gun-related or violent crime.

Also, it's impossible to know what crimes may have been prevented by these drives. I dont see anything wrong with them as long as they are voluntary.
 
Hoplite said:
**Shrug** Again, I'd like to see if it has any impact on gun-related or violent crime.

Also, it's impossible to know what crimes may have been prevented by these drives. I dont see anything wrong with them as long as they are voluntary.
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Chicago does this too. Many people bring in guns that haven't worked in years and guns that they purchased for the sole reason of turning it around and selling it to the city for a tidy profit.

BTW, if you've been following what's going on in Chicago in terms of the number of shootings over the past couple of years, it's highly unlikely the program has had much of an impact on the number of gun crimes. People that are going to use a gun for a crime, are unlikely to turn it in to the city, dontcha think?
 
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I do not think the government at any level should engage in gun buyback programs. As US citizens we have the right to keep and bear arms. Your basically letting the government pay you to give up something you have a constitutional right to have. What if the government wanted to be buy bibles, political science books and newspaper from citizens for the sole purpose of trying to get these things out of the hands of citizens?
 
jamesrage said:
I do not think the government at any level should engage in gun buyback programs. As US citizens we have the right to keep and bear arms. Your basically letting the government pay you to give up something you have a constitutional right to have. What if the government wanted to be buy bibles, political science books and newspaper from citizens for the sole purpose of trying to get these things out of the hands of citizens?
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You'd have a point if this were a mandatory program, however it's not. No one is forced to sell any weapons they have.
 
Hoplite said:
L.A. gun buyback nets 2,000 weapons -- including a grenade | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

It's always interesting when LA does this. The last one was quite successful as well.

LAPD takes in 1,700 weapons in gun buyback program - Los Angeles Times

I'd be curious to see if there is any drop in violent or gun related crime post-buyback.
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These things tend to get old guns out of people's homes, guns that don't function well, or from families who had no need/were not using the firearms. In essence, it does not get the guns which matter; those in the hands of criminals. The only thing this really does is to encourage the poor to disarm.
 
Guns were probably stolen anyways. Essentially the city becomes a better-value pawn shop.
 
Gipper said:
Guns were probably stolen anyways. Essentially the city becomes a better-value pawn shop.
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Yep, steal 3 or 4 guns and sell them to the city for enough money to buy an AK-47!
 
Hoplite said:
L.A. gun buyback nets 2,000 weapons -- including a grenade | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

It's always interesting when LA does this. The last one was quite successful as well.

LAPD takes in 1,700 weapons in gun buyback program - Los Angeles Times

I'd be curious to see if there is any drop in violent or gun related crime post-buyback.
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Hmmmm, I dunno this kinda seems like a stupid idea to me. Are criminals really gonna hand back their guns? I dunno I really doubt it.
 
Hoplite said:
L.A. gun buyback nets 2,000 weapons -- including a grenade | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

It's always interesting when LA does this. The last one was quite successful as well.

LAPD takes in 1,700 weapons in gun buyback program - Los Angeles Times

I'd be curious to see if there is any drop in violent or gun related crime post-buyback.
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:rofl:

I am even more curious to know how many of those people who turned in guns, went right back out to buy even more powerful guns then they had before.
 
Of course not.

There's never a drop in violence or crime.

The violent criminals aren't giving their guns away.

:doh
 
Hoplite said:
You'd have a point if this were a mandatory program, however it's not. No one is forced to sell any weapons they have.
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What Constitutional authority does the government have to buy such property when the purpose for the program is mere political grandstanding?

What authority would the government have, under the Constitution, if it wasn't actually for political grandstanding, which it is?
 
1984 said:
A ridiculous and ineffectual waste of money; a silly publicity stunt made to assuage naive gun-grabbers.
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You're basing that on what exactly?

Ya see, the police, those who have to actually deal with the inevitable outcome of the gunshow loophole and out-of-state guns flooding into densely populate areas... They support it. The big city police, mayors, etc, support stricter enforcement of gun regs.

So, unless you have something, some relevant knowledge and/or experience the make your opinion on gun control issues in Los Angeles valid; unless you're a resident here in L.A. and really understand the nature of the problem in big (real) cities, I suggest you worry about gun control in your state and we'll continue to fingerprint everyone who buys ammo in California.
 
hazlnut said:
You're basing that on what exactly?

Ya see, the police, those who have to actually deal with the inevitable outcome of the gunshow loophole and out-of-state guns flooding into densely populate areas... They support it. The big city police, mayors, etc, support stricter enforcement of gun regs.

So, unless you have something, some relevant knowledge and/or experience the make your opinion on gun control issues in Los Angeles valid; unless you're a resident here in L.A. and really understand the nature of the problem in big (real) cities, I suggest you worry about gun control in your state and
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So you support the disarming of innocent law abiding citizens(people who need guns) through some idiotic gun buyback program?

we'll continue to fingerprint everyone who buys ammo in California.
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I guess only a Commiefornia resident would support submitting fingers to exercise constitutional rights.
 
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jamesrage said:
So you support the disarming of innocent law abiding citizens(people who need guns) through some idiotic gun buyback program?
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Are you deaf or just lazy? The program is NOT mandatory
 
hazlnut said:
Ya see, the police, those who have to actually deal with the inevitable outcome of the gunshow loophole...
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Another hoplophibic talking point used out of ignorance and willfull partisan blindness.
There is no such thing as a 'gun show loophole'.

So, unless you have something, some relevant knowledge and/or experience the make your opinion on gun control issues in Los Angeles valid...
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Does this mean you'll not comment on gun control from this point forward?
 
hazlnut said:
You're basing that on what exactly?
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The lack of evidence showing these programs to be effectual.

Ya see, the police, those who have to actually deal with the inevitable outcome of the gunshow loophole and out-of-state guns flooding into densely populate areas... They support it. The big city police, mayors, etc, support stricter enforcement of gun regs.

So, unless you have something, some relevant knowledge and/or experience the make your opinion on gun control issues in Los Angeles valid; unless you're a resident here in L.A. and really understand the nature of the problem in big (real) cities, I suggest you worry about gun control in your state and we'll continue to fingerprint everyone who buys ammo in California.
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The places with the strictest gun control laws are usually the same places with the highest rates of gun crime. Probably has something to do with the fact that individuals who are inclined to commit gun crimes don't typically abide by gun control laws.

Gun crime is primarily the result of poverty and desperation, not lax gun control laws.
 
LA is about to go bankrupt, and my tax money is going for this crap? This freaking city needs to go broke already. We need to change it NOW.
 
Hoplite said:
Are you deaf or just lazy? The program is NOT mandatory
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What do you think of the government buying back copies of The Communist Manifesto? Are you fine with that?
 
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