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    Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    But he said the administration needs to consider at least modifying the public safety exception for reading a suspect his rights to ensure law enforcement can act with flexibility and within constitutional bounds.
    Wow, if I was some happy go lucky idiot I would be shocked but Im not. So who can say with a straight face that the Democrats actually give a damm about civil liberties?

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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    They must have heard the howls of criticism from conservatives when they offered the failed Times Square bomber his miranda rights. Now they can't do right for doing wrong....
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    They must have heard the howls of criticism from conservatives when they offered the failed Times Square bomber his miranda rights. Now they can't do right for doing wrong....
    Hell even Beck believed that the guy was entitled to his Miranda rights as US citizen! This is sick road we're taking and its only getting worse.
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Being required to read someone their rights is retarded in the first place.

    Of course, I rarely if ever read rights to an arrested suspect now, so I guess it doesn't make a difference to me.
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    I do not see the point in having police read maranda rights.Is the Gun store clerk required to read me the 2nd amendment before allowing me in the store or to purchase a gun?Is a local militia required to read me the 2nd amendment before I join? Is a priest at a church,clerk at a newstands or some other related store required to read the first amendment to me? Why should the police be required to read 5th and 6th amendment rights(Which is what Miranda warning is) to those they arrest when we do not require others read out constitutional rights for other things? If that person screws up and testifies against himself or what ever without a lawyer present then that is that individual's fault. All constitutional rights are important and therefore should be taught in school, their literal meaning(not some stupid lib bastardized interpretation) and why they were created should be taught as well so that kids can understand the purpose and meaning of those rights.
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Being required to read someone their rights is retarded in the first place.

    Of course, I rarely if ever read rights to an arrested suspect now, so I guess it doesn't make a difference to me.
    I am pretty sure there is no legal obligation to actually "read" anything to anyone as the wording in the Miranda case makes no mention of that. (As I recall)

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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    The Miranda warning is only necessary if you are taken into custody to be interrogated; it's not required to be read if you're just being arrested.
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The Miranda warning is only necessary if you are going to be interrogated; it's not required to be read if you're just being arrested.
    Shouldn't you have already learn about rights from school? Why should the police have any obligation to remind you?
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Well they don't have an obligation, but if they don't read it then anything that you say in interrogation is inadmissable as evidence.
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Well they don't have an obligation, but if they don't read it then anything that you say in interrogation is inadmissable as evidence.
    Why should it be inadmissible, that person arrest should have already learned about the constitution in school? We don't force gun store clerks to remind customers that they have the right to keep and bear arms. Nor for we force churches and religious bookstores to remind their congregation and customers of their right to freedom of religion. If you failed to exercise your constitutional rights then that is your fault, not the police.
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