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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    BS..... if a person isn't in this country legally they shouldn't have the protections of our constitution.
    The constitution applies to everyone, period. Also, they're discussing pushing back these rights for anyone accused of terrorism. Whether they are a US citizen or a foreign terrorist who entered the country covertly.
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The constitution applies to everyone, period.
    No, not everyone. There are any number of people that do not enjoy the same protection of their rights under the Constitution as, say, you and I do.

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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Is it too much to ask that just ONCE we get an attorney general who isn't a complete ****up? Mukasey was tolerable, but every other attorney general for the past 20 years has been god awful.
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Shouldn't you have already learn about rights from school? Why should the police have any obligation to remind you?
    The suspect might not have gone to school in this country. Or they might have gone to a school that didn't teach them their Miranda Rights. Or they might have finished school before Miranda v Arizona was the law of the land. Or they might have forgot. Or they might simply not be very intelligent.

    There are lots of reasons. The police should have an obligation to inform you of your rights so that suspects are not manipulated by the police.
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

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    Wow I can't believe how many people here would give away their rights and liberties, just like that.
    Let me respond to that by uttering two words.......

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    Update

    9/11 families have come out against this bull**** too

    Anti-war 9/11 families oppose Holder proposal to modify Miranda | Raw Story
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Guess Holder believed all the political hype piled onto the Bush administration by the vile democrat campaign machine. Now he wants to adopt all their legal interpretations. Will he be inviting ex-AG Gonzalez in for a consult soon? Not likely. Then he'd have to admit AFTER he thoroughly considered the issued he came to the same conclusion.

    What an idiot!
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Quote Originally Posted by LowRevs View Post
    Guess Holder believed all the political hype piled onto the Bush administration by the vile democrat campaign machine. Now he wants to adopt all their legal interpretations. Will he be inviting ex-AG Gonzalez in for a consult soon? Not likely. Then he'd have to admit AFTER he thoroughly considered the issued he came to the same conclusion.

    What an idiot!

    Umm so why are you angry with him? Shouldn't you be happy?
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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    so the white house is forced to BACK DOWN yet again on yet another of its preposterous foreign policy positions

    when's that meeting with the leaders of iran gonna go down, without preconditions?

    when's gitmo closing?

    why did NINETY SENATORS push that piece of complete stupidty back in his perplexed face like a pumpkin cream pie?

    when's ksm gonna be tried in manhattan?

    when's the admin gonna decide?

    civilian trial or tribunal?

    why the preconviction of the creeps, doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose?

    what's going on with that special prosecution of (the lowest levelers at) the cia?

    what's a 1 off?

    how do you know when THE SYSTEM WORKED?

    what's an ISOLATED EXTREMIST?

    why did holder hold out on jiltin joe's homeland security which only asked for the fort hood hitman's personnel files?

    why the whitewash of the pentagon's promotion of hasan?

    why did president pie-in-the-face castigate karzai as corrupt?

    now he's kissing the crazy kook's can, TODAY

    Hamid Karzai gets full White House welcome - Carol E. Lee - POLITICO.com

    remember when pieface's PARTNER in the theater threatened HIMSELF to go join the TALIBAN?

    it's embarrassing

    what is the white house's ANSWER to the mexican cartels?

    NONE?

    NO answer, at all?

    not even TALKING POINTS?

    what's obtuse obama's policy TODAY for iran?

    he doesn't HAVE ONE?

    embarrassing

    amateurish

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    Despite arrest, White House on defensive - Glenn Thrush and Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

    Eric Holder takes fire over no-fly list - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

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    Re: Holder wants new look at Miranda rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Umm so why are you angry with him? Shouldn't you be happy?
    I am gratified that they (the O administration in general) seem to be coming to the same conclusions that the Bush administration attorneys did; I also feel a little more secure. However, I will never stop being angry at the way they treated various members of the Bush administration who were simply doing their duty as public servants to the best of their ability. Calling a general officer and theater commander a liar on public airways in a congressional hearing room was far beyond the pale. And then there is the racism. When are they going to prosecute the democrat party worker thug with the club outside the So. Philadelphia poll? And then there's the . . .

    Maybe sometime after November I'll start to cool down.
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