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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    ZOMGWTF!!??!!? You actually take responsibility for how you integrate the information you receive into your and your childrens' lives.

    Who knew that was even an option?
    It's this weird thing called parenting. Some people still do it, but they're mostly old-fashioned throwbacks to an earlier era.

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Who knew Playstations and Xboxs were news sources?

    Why is this news, anyway? I sure as hell don't give a damn what our Assclown-In-Chief opines about the media.

    He's just being the pompous, elitist, assclown he always has been. Pretty sure I can tell if something's biased.
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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Unfortunate, but not surprising. Elitists hate that what was once an elite-run industry - the information industry - is now becoming open for all to use and contribute to. While everything in a newspaper can be unquestionably accepted as fact, those darned untamed masses can now post anything they want to and people might not be smart enough to check it. If they aren't, though, the ones we have to blame are the ones who treated the news media as the word of God in the first place and created such an attitude.

    Ironically, thanks to the openness of the new media, it is now easier than ever to double-check a claim presented by the news media, which didn't even use to be really possible.

    Also... XBOX? Where the heck does that come in?

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Huh.

    Message one: John McCain is an out-of-touch old coot for never having sent an email (which he's too crippled to do)!

    Message two:
    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    With iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations, -- none of which I know how to work
    Wasn't he supposed to be the guy who got elected by spreading information via the new media? And now he's complaining that there's too much information in the new media?

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Is it wrong that the first thing that jumped out at me, more so than his message, was the utter bull**** nature of it?

    Its actually one of the things I detest most about Barack Obama. He is a 100%, complete, wholey, political machine. There's essentially NOTHING else there when he speaks. I can not listen to the man without immediately realizing and viewing it through the filter that he's the truest definition of the bull**** politician I have ever seen in my life.

    Why did this immediately jump out at me?

    "With iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations, -- none of which I know how to work -- information becomes a distraction"

    So, aside from the message that we're a culture that is SO information rich that we're inundated with so much info that its hard to tell fact from opinion and pure fiction, is the notion that somehow much of this technology we have is actually bad. That its distracting, that its something to not even bother learning or using, to the point where our President himself doesn't bother with it.

    And yet, if my memory serves me from a year or so back...

    Barack Obama gifts for the Queen: an Ipod your Majesty

    Barack Obama met the Queen at Buckingham Palace today and gave her a gift of an iPod loaded with video footage and photographs of her 2007 United States visit to Richmond, Jamestown and Williamsburg in Virginia.
    Wait, so President Obama gave the Queen of England an object of distraction and diversion that is so damaging to our very culture that Barack Obama doesn't even bother to learn how to use one? A piece of technology he's seemingly attributing part of the blame for the downfall of intellectual observation of fact from fiction?

    But...wait a moment. He doesn't know how to use an iPod. But...I could've swore, in 2008, back when it was important to make him look hip and cool for the youngin's that...ah yes, rolling stone

    Barack Obama's iPod: Bob Dylan, Yo-Yo Ma, Sheryl Crow, Jay-Z

    The Illinois senator's playlist contains these musicians, along with about 30 songs from Dylan and the singer's "Blood on the Tracks" album.
    That's right, there was an entire piece about what's on Barack Obama's Ipod, making him identifiable and "hip" to the youth of America who were tired of backwards out of touch politician...you know, like that cowboy George Bush or old guy John McCain.

    Sorry, this is what I can't stand about the guy and why even when he makes relatively decent points I can't take them at face value and ASSUME he's saying them for wholly benevolent reasons and not specifically for calculated, planned, political reasons.

    This statement by him was not simply about misinformation or people being to easily led by what's "Fake" or not. This was not him speaking just as much about the Michael Moore's and John Stewarts of the world as he is the Rush Limbaugh's and Bill O'Riely's. This is completely and utterly him attempting to use a school ceremony at a predominantly black school to push a political message to spread out into the masses.

    Perhaps at some point I may've been able to give him a break, but I just can't anymore. His dishonesty, his disingenuous attitude, his utter and complete fake "above the frey" persona is nothing but a cheap, insulting, cover of a pure political beast to the very core.

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I do think that people are less scrupulous about fact-checking information they receive through technology. They think if it is online, it's true. I've seen you fall prey to this, Vicchio. If it reinforces your existing paradigms, you believe it is true.
    The same guy who was hailed at being the most tech savvy presidential candidate in history.

    You don't see the incredible hypocrisy in crying about modern technology when he used it without reservation to get elected?


    This guy is a massive walking hypocritical troll who loves technology when he can use it to his advantage but cries when its used against him.
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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Where is my pot/kettle picture when I need it?
    Its called NPD.
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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yeah, everyone is more prone to believe information that matches their beliefs then to believe information that goes against it. The Climate forum is a great example of this in action. The warmers refuse to accept ANYTHING that doesn't support AGW 100%.
    This is not true to the extent that you are insinuating. People tend to accept information that matches their belief system, however, what I am taking about is people who completely shut off when their belief system is challenged and a point is proven inaccurate.


    CC does this all the time in reference to Progressives. Anytime someone posts anything from or about a Progressive that doesn't conform to his standard of what a "Progressive" is, he dismiss it.
    Not in the least. You just cannot accept that your position on what a progressive is falls perfectly into what I am discussing. Worse yet, because it does, you cannot even see your error.



    The underlying problem with Obama's commentary is that he laments the lack of CONTROL over the media message that once existed. People are no longer reliant on the Big Three and a few newspapers for their news. This means that people learn things from a different source, that may not have the approved spin on it.
    I agree to some extent. I think that having such a variety of sources to examine is, in essence a good thing. The problem is figuring out what is news and what is spin, what is information and what is info-tainment. This is more of what Obama seems to be discussing.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Where is my pot/kettle picture when I need it?
    I thought you owned them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is not true to the extent that you are insinuating. People tend to accept information that matches their belief system, however, what I am taking about is people who completely shut off when their belief system is challenged and a point is proven inaccurate.
    I'd give what you say more credence, but you've proven yourself one of the worst on this forum for doing just what your lamenting.

    You are after all, the only person I know that claims he knows what motivated the Founding Fathers in their creation of the Constitution better then their own words. So you'll have to excuse me if I take this commentary of yours as... "Do as I say not as I do" in action.



    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Not in the least. You just cannot accept that your position on what a progressive is falls perfectly into what I am discussing. Worse yet, because it does, you cannot even see your error.
    We know, we know. Only YOUR version and vision, belief of what a Progressive is, counts. All others are just wrong. Hubris, they name is CC.






    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I agree to some extent. I think that having such a variety of sources to examine is, in essence a good thing. The problem is figuring out what is news and what is spin, what is information and what is info-tainment. This is more of what Obama seems to be discussing.
    Variety is the spice of life... however you agree with Obama's spin... You're a Progressive, he's a Progressive. You see his commentary as thoughtful, and on the mark. Your agreeing with him is as shocking as the sun rising in the east, or a rooster crowing at dawn.
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