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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You are not listening. It's irrelevant as to whether or not the media has turned on him or not. His point is valid. A critical analysis of information is key when there is so much information out there.
    No, it is very relevant, b/c the only reason he is saying this, is b/c he doesn't like them critcizing him.

    What he said really, is basic knowledge. But whatever.

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    No, it is very relevant, b/c the only reason he is saying this, is b/c he doesn't like them critcizing him.

    What he said really, is basic knowledge. But whatever.

    True that. Then the next day...(today) the WH is unveiling an new ipod ap....How very Orwellian.


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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    they are the new media that Obama and Ikari just railed against.
    Nobody railed. I challenge you to quote the "railing" portion. What Obama said was that more information is now available than ever before, and people have to exercise personal common sense in using it.

    I strongly believe you are rejecting the message purely because it was delivered by Obama. Which, frankly, is just hypocritical.

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Nobody railed. I challenge you to quote the "railing" portion. What Obama said was that more information is now available than ever before, and people have to exercise personal common sense in using it.
    Maybe "railed" was the wrong word. Anyways, I'm all for exercising personal common sense with information, but the message seems to be that it's more crucial- and difficult- to do so now than it was before, which I just don't agree with.

    I strongly believe you are rejecting the message purely because it was delivered by Obama. Which, frankly, is just hypocritical.
    I've acknowledged that many people are like that. I'm not. I'll agree with Obama where he's right, but I've thought what he just said was wrong since long before he said it.

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Maybe "railed" was the wrong word.
    Maybe?

    Anyways, I'm all for exercising personal common sense with information, but the message seems to be that it's more crucial- and difficult- to do so now than it was before, which I just don't agree with.
    I don't know how you are able to make a comparison, given that the current information culture is normal to you. It isn't to those of us who are older. We remember the advent of the internet, and what it was like in the olden days when we had to read actual books to conduct research (and sometimes, visit several different libraries).

    I've acknowledged that many people are like that. I'm not. I'll agree with Obama where he's right, but I've thought what he just said was wrong since long before he said it.
    You have an inaccurate perception of what he said (railed) based upon your negative perceptions of him. You may not see it, but the rest of us do. When was the last time you thought Obama was right about something? Name the issue.
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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How very Orwellian.
    What book did Orwell write that coined this term, J-mac. See if you can answer me without googling. If you had read it, you'd realize that your comments are absurd.

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Unfortunate, but not surprising. Elitists hate that what was once an elite-run industry - the information industry - is now becoming open for all to use and contribute to. While everything in a newspaper can be unquestionably accepted as fact, those darned untamed masses can now post anything they want to and people might not be smart enough to check it. If they aren't, though, the ones we have to blame are the ones who treated the news media as the word of God in the first place and created such an attitude.

    Ironically, thanks to the openness of the new media, it is now easier than ever to double-check a claim presented by the news media, which didn't even use to be really possible.

    Also... XBOX? Where the heck does that come in?
    Of course, the better proof is that people don't know what an "elitist" is and throw the word around as if they actually know.

    And the proof of that is that you think that people posting stuff is actually information and not just more opinion.

    We have all the opinion we want; it doesn't actually add "information" to anything.

    You realize that 99% of what we do here is share opinion, right?

    That's not fact or information. It's just people spouting off. But too many people think of it as fact. If I get one more email from my father-in-law about Obama that is supposedly "fact", I'm gonna slap him, God love him.

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    True that. Then the next day...(today) the WH is unveiling an new ipod ap....How very Orwellian.


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    Wow, did they really?

    Don't forget, they are from the government and they are here to help b/c the government never has alternate motives.

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I don't know how you are able to make a comparison, given that the current information culture is normal to you. It isn't to those of us who are older. We remember the advent of the internet, and what it was like in the olden days when we had to read actual books to conduct research (and sometimes, visit several different libraries).
    Sorry Catz, but when I read this all I can think of is the old people of the 60s who thought that rock and roll and premarital sex would destroy society. Yeah, the kids of the 60s and 70s didn't have a direct comparison to an earlier time. But that doesn't mean that they were wrong.

    You have an inaccurate perception of what he said (railed) based upon your negative perceptions of him. You may not see it, but the rest of us do. When was the last time you thought Obama was right about something? Name the issue.
    Issue-wise, there is very little where I agree with him. But that doesn't mean I automatically disagree with all of his statements. For example, his Nobel Prize acceptance speech was spot-on.

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    True that. Then the next day...(today) the WH is unveiling an new ipod ap....How very Orwellian.


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    And further proof that people don't know how to use information or terminology.

    Last time I heard, no one was forced to download an Ipad application - especially those who don't have an Ipad, Ipod, or Iphone. Which was be the vast majority of Americans.

    BUT - when you're a conservative, anytime THIS White House offers an option to get information from them, it's the equivalent of Orwellian control.

    You do know that one of Orwell's biggest complaints was the misuse of language, right?

    Thus, using "Orwellian" - meaning government control - and mixing it up with an offered option that anyone can choose not to use - is, in fact, Orwellian in and of itself and is used due to the propaganda of right-wing television & radio.

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