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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And that's exactly what needs to be done. Great job, you're well ahead of the curve. I'm not saying things like Ann Coulter go away, somehow forced that way by the government. No, she can stay. But when she runs off at her mouth about her outlandish claims that people instead say "I wonder if that's true, I'll have to look that up", something along those lines. Don't take it at face value. What we have up for stake is well to precious and valuable to take things at face value. Learn to question, learn to research, learn to make up your own mind and work with conviction and intelligence for your ideologies.

    Funny you should pick Ann Coulter, and not Keith Olberman, or Bill Mahr...Hmmm....so whom might we check Ms. Coulter's rhetoric with? Media Matters?


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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Funny you should pick Ann Coulter, and not Keith Olberman, or Bill Mahr...Hmmm....so whom might we check Ms. Coulter's rhetoric with? Media Matters?


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    I have to ask because he has probably explained his position around 5 times : ARE YOU READING ANYTHING HE IS WRITING? OR ARE YOU JUST LOOKING AT IT AND CONNECTING DOTS WITH CIRCLES IN ANY WAY YOU CAN?
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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, then maybe I am missing something. Explain to me like I am a 4th grader, what is "Critical thinking" to you?


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    1. Healthy skepticism about all sources.
    2. Fact-checking quotes and statistics.
    3. Identifying source bias.


    This is easily the 3rd or 4th time I've posted this information.

    Also, what Ikari said, which I'm QFT:

    Don't take it [information] at face value. ...Learn to question, learn to research, learn to make up your own mind and work with conviction and intelligence for your ideologies
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 05-10-10 at 12:53 PM.

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Funny you should pick Ann Coulter, and not Keith Olberman, or Bill Mahr...Hmmm....so whom might we check Ms. Coulter's rhetoric with? Media Matters?


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    I mean, I'm not going to list every single one. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure it all out. I can't sit here and give you all the answers.

    I mean, this is a prime example though of the problem. You immediately when partisan with your argument. Immediately. It wasn't a "oh, he just thew one thing out there and that was it; or previously he brought up both Fox News and MSNBC". It was immediately "oh...what about the left, blah blah blah". No one was exempt from my criticism. Not the left, not the right, not the independents. We need to stop, the partisan bandwangon is old and annoying; it's time that we stop and we think before we blurt out things on nothing more than reflex. It's time to stop, seriously.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I have to ask because he has probably explained his position around 5 times : ARE YOU READING ANYTHING HE IS WRITING? OR ARE YOU JUST LOOKING AT IT AND CONNECTING DOTS WITH CIRCLES IN ANY WAY YOU CAN?

    No, I am asking questions....Now get out of the way.


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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post


    1. Healthy skepticism about all sources.
    2. Fact-checking quotes and statistics.
    3. Identifying source bias.


    This is easily the 3rd or 4th time I've posted this information.

    Also, what Ikari said, which I'm QFT:

    Ok, and what sources should one use to "fact check"?

    How should one go about identifying "source bias"?


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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post


    1. Healthy skepticism about all sources.
    2. Fact-checking quotes and statistics.
    3. Identifying source bias.


    This is easily the 3rd or 4th time I've posted this information.

    Also, what Ikari said, which I'm QFT:
    I think something unmentioned here is reasonableness. Even though it is an indeterminate word, the point is that any of the items on this list can be taken too far in either direction. You can be too gullible or too suspicious.

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    You can be too gullible or too suspicious.
    As it concerns the government, it is best to be too suspicious than it is to be too gullible.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, I am asking questions....Now get out of the way.


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    Why don't you try reading what Ikari is saying instead of asking so many questions? Cause I am sure he's answered them already. READ FFS. READ.
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    Re: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    As it concerns the government, it is best to be too suspicious than it is to be too gullible.
    This brings to light the problems of the indeterminate nature of the word reasonable. From a certain perspective, you are absolutely correct.

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