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    Re: Pentagon asking Congress to hold back on generous increases in troop pay

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    $568 million is nowhere near half a trillion dollars.
    oops, half a bil, you're right

    does my error justify the no bid?

    what about the kickbacks?

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    Re: Pentagon asking Congress to hold back on generous increases in troop pay

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Don't they already get a decent wage?
    A E-1(Army& Marine Corp-private, Navy& Coast Guard-Seaman Recruit, Airforce- Airman Basic) starts out at $17,366.40 a year a E-6 (Army& Marine Corp -Staff Sergeant, Navy&Coast Guard- Petty Officer 1st Class, Airforce- Technical Sergeant) with 10 years in the military starts out at $42,066.00 a year. A O-1(Army,Airforce& Marine Corp- Second Lieutenant, Navy& Coast Guard- Ensign) start out with $32,947.20 a year and a O-3(Army, Airforce & Marine Corp - Captain, Navy Coast Guard - Lieutenant) with ten years service start out with $66,481.20 a year. So the answer is no.


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    Re: Pentagon asking Congress to hold back on generous increases in troop pay

    I think they should make pay cuts in other areas of the military, not to troop wages. I know probably 90% of people will disagree with me on this, but if they cut wages in any fashion they should cut the sign on bonuses that they use to bait teenagers into joining the military and to military advertisements asking people to join.

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    Re: Pentagon asking Congress to hold back on generous increases in troop pay

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think they should make pay cuts in other areas of the military, not to troop wages. I know probably 90% of people will disagree with me on this, but if they cut wages in any fashion they should cut the sign on bonuses that they use to bait teenagers into joining the military and to military advertisements asking people to join.
    They should cut wages and bennies on the civilians that are employed by the DoD.
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    Re: Pentagon asking Congress to hold back on generous increases in troop pay

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They should cut wages and bennies on the civilians that are employed by the DoD.
    No they shouldn't. They deserve every penny they make. Honestly they need to cut funding to advertisement for the army and all these sign on bonuses. As a senior in high school I got letters almost weekly from each branch of the military telling me how sweet it would be to join. The propagate the minds of 17 year old high school seniors into signing several years of their lives away, recruiters don't give you the full story, and it's an expensive process to advertise and bribe teenagers to enlist in the armed forces. Let someone who wants to enlist enlist, but it costs the country money to run commercials and send letters lying to immature teenagers about enlisting.

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    Re: Pentagon asking Congress to hold back on generous increases in troop pay

    I read recently (will look for it) that the government spends about 41K per family that is on government assistance.

    Why is it a family that in many cases are not employed get as much as someone risking there lives for our security? And they want cuts...

    We have our priorities screwed up.

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    Re: Pentagon asking Congress to hold back on generous increases in troop pay

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think they should make pay cuts in other areas of the military, not to troop wages. I know probably 90% of people will disagree with me on this, but if they cut wages in any fashion they should cut the sign on bonuses that they use to bait teenagers into joining the military and to military advertisements asking people to join.
    The signing/re-enlistment bonuses are there for a reason. Taking them away would have an effect on getting people into unpopular jobs. Enlistment bonuses are not there to get people to sign, but to get them to take jobs where there is a lack of people.
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    Re: Pentagon asking Congress to hold back on generous increases in troop pay

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The signing/re-enlistment bonuses are there for a reason. Taking them away would have an effect on getting people into unpopular jobs. Enlistment bonuses are not there to get people to sign, but to get them to take jobs where there is a lack of people.
    I still don't think it's right. I also don't think it's right that they are allowed to sugar coat the military and lie to teenagers. You can't smoke until you're 18, you can drink or own a handgun until you are 21. But at the age of 17 you can pre-sign up to join the armed forces and ship out when you are 18. I really don't like how they bait teenagers.

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    Re: Pentagon asking Congress to hold back on generous increases in troop pay

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I still don't think it's right. I also don't think it's right that they are allowed to sugar coat the military and lie to teenagers. You can't smoke until you're 18, you can drink or own a handgun until you are 21. But at the age of 17 you can pre-sign up to join the armed forces and ship out when you are 18. I really don't like how they bait teenagers.
    It's still your choice. You'll have a right to complain when there's a draft.

    And you can drink in front (with consent) of a legal guardian when you are under 21 (and older than 15).

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    Re: Pentagon asking Congress to hold back on generous increases in troop pay

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    It's still your choice. You'll have a right to complain when there's a draft.

    And you can drink in front (with consent) of a legal guardian when you are under 21 (and older than 15).
    It's like market fraud if you ask me. They advertise the military as a fun structured place where you get to see the world and make good money with wonderful benefits when you leave... This isn't the case, but once you sign on you can't change your mind.

    Even if you can drink in front of an adult, you still don't need consenting parents to sign on as a 17 year old.

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