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    Re: Health care law's massive, hidden tax change

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    "restaurant, mechanic"
    Are not essential to someone's LIFE.
    Sure about that? No car means you have to find another means to work, not every city has transportation, no restaurants/stores/farmers/meat producers means you must gather your own food, without them most Americans would probably starve. Insurance is a service, so is medical care. If you want the best you have to pay, end of story.

    I can handle almost every issue with my car/truck - so I've never needed a Mechanic.
    I can feed my family - so I don't need to go out to eat.
    When I didn't have health/dental/auto insurance I covered those costs by myself, out of pocket
    Great, most people can't these days in ever increasing numbers.

    if someone wants to waste money on fastfood - fine But that's not essential and that's not me.
    Ah, but they are service providers, as are insurers.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Health care law's massive, hidden tax change

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Many countries manage the cost just fine and spend much less then America does .. 5% gdp less is a substial amount.
    No, they don't manage costs just fine, they have to increase taxes or deny/delay more services. Any large country in the world has those problems, the "solutions" don't "manage" money, they just hide cost.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Health care law's massive, hidden tax change

    The main reason the US stays privatized.

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    Re: Health care law's massive, hidden tax change

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    The main reason the US stays privatized.

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    A political agenda? Now you are reaching, nothing you brought so far is new or hasn't been exposed already. All of these sources are biased based upon an agenda, they also completely misrepresent the issue.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Health care law's massive, hidden tax change

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    A political agenda? Now you are reaching, nothing you brought so far is new or hasn't been exposed already. All of these sources are biased based upon an agenda, they also completely misrepresent the issue.
    Again I understand you work with private health insurance. You understand I don't think that should job should exist. Lets just leave it at that shall we?

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    Re: Health care law's massive, hidden tax change

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Again I understand you work with private health insurance. You understand I don't think that should job should exist. Lets just leave it at that shall we?
    Absolutely not. You have attacked my industry, used propaganda in that attack, and are advocating for a horrid replacement instead of trying to learn what's actually wrong with it. I have explained the problems in great detail all over this forum, mainly with the backing of a mod who is on the provider end, we tend to agree on the issues for the most part.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Health care law's massive, hidden tax change

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Absolutely not. You have attacked my industry, used propaganda in that attack, and are advocating for a horrid replacement instead of trying to learn what's actually wrong with it. I have explained the problems in great detail all over this forum, mainly with the backing of a mod who is on the provider end, we tend to agree on the issues for the most part.
    Yeah perfectly logical "propaganda" and I pretty much see the private health insurance industry as an illegitimate waste of the public's money based on that "propaganda". You work in an unnecessary middle man position for profit often at the cost of the people your supposed to be helping. This is not a personal attack it's the nature of your buisness and I find it repugnant.

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    Re: Health care law's massive, hidden tax change

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Yeah perfectly logical "propaganda"
    Wrong, there cannot be logic because it uses incomplete and/or dishonest analysis, I notice you never did challenge that.
    and I pretty much see the private health insurance industry as an illegitimate waste of the public's money based on that "propaganda".
    And now you will be reported for baiting. But I will answer again, insurance is a choice that you make, it's a service and based on mathematical analysis based on probability and risk. As well my industry compiles these factors on a daily basis. It is perfectly legitimate business.
    You work in an unnecessary middle man position for profit often at the cost of the people your supposed to be helping. This is not a personal attack it's the nature of your buisness and I find it repugnant.
    So you cannot produce worthwhile debate, commentary, sources or arguments and you resort to character attacks. Noted.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Health care law's massive, hidden tax change

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Again I understand you work with private health insurance. You understand I don't think that should job should exist. Lets just leave it at that shall we?
    You have to remember something here.

    You're advocating forcing people to participate in a government managed medical system.
    LaMid isn't doing that, he wants things to be based on choice.
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    Re: Health care law's massive, hidden tax change

    Just because you have a choice doesn't mean your options are good. I'd rather be forced into one good option than have my choice of dozens of bad ones.

    And most people don't have dozens of options when it comes to healthcare.

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