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    Re: Bishop says kids ‘spontaneously’ gay and pedos

    What? More stupid responses from the Catholic church to the priest abuse scandals? Say it isn't so!

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    Re: Bishop says kids ‘spontaneously’ gay and pedos

    This is simply more proof of why debating sexuality with most religious people is like debating how The Sacrament of the Last Supper was painted with a blind man. Why is it we are debating the origins of heterosexuality, homosexuality etc. with these people? The majority of clergymen, pastors, evangelicals, Catholics, etc. I have encountered in this forum and elsewhere are completely ignorant of the role science has played in deciphering sexuality. They do not compute that the majority of mental health care professionals in this country and elsewhere have discredited 'psychological' explanations for sexuality. But yet those who follow these men are the people who we are forced to have 150 page debates with over what 'sexual stimuli' are and the numerous studies demonstrating the complexity of sexuality in general.
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    Re: Bishop says kids ‘spontaneously’ gay and pedos

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    They do not compute that the majority of mental health care professionals in this country and elsewhere have discredited 'psychological' explanations for sexuality.
    I wouldn't exactly call "mental health professionals" (i.e. practitioners) experts on scientific matters -- though clergy are even less so.

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    Re: Bishop says kids ‘spontaneously’ gay and pedos

    Another religious nutjob. I'm not surprised.

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    Re: Bishop says kids ‘spontaneously’ gay and pedos

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I wouldn't exactly call "mental health professionals" (i.e. practitioners) experts on scientific matters -- though clergy are even less so.
    Only that is not what I said. Read what I actually said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey
    They do not compute that the majority of mental health care professionals in this country and elsewhere have discredited 'psychological' explanations for sexuality.
    Nothing to do with science. Mental health professionals have DISCREDITED - PSYCHOLOGICAL EXPLANATIONS for homosexuality.

    In other words, people who are experts in mental health have found that a person being a homosexual, heterosexual etc has little to do with their mental health. There is nothing mentally wrong with a person who is gay. It's not a decease. You don't simply change your mind and decide you want to screw the same sex. It doesn't happen 'spontaneously' anymore than heterosexuality does.
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    Re: Bishop says kids ‘spontaneously’ gay and pedos

    How is this news?
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    Re: Bishop says kids ‘spontaneously’ gay and pedos

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Only that is not what I said. Read what I actually said:



    Nothing to do with science. Mental health professionals have DISCREDITED - PSYCHOLOGICAL EXPLANATIONS for homosexuality.
    Apologies. In the sentence before you said:
    I have encountered in this forum and elsewhere are completely ignorant of the role science has played in deciphering sexuality.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    In other words, people who are experts in mental health have found that a person being a homosexual, heterosexual etc has little to do with their mental health. There is nothing mentally wrong with a person who is gay. It's not a decease.
    Without science, their opinion is no better than that of the clergyman. Whether there is something "wrong" is more of a societal decision.

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    Re: Bishop says kids ‘spontaneously’ gay and pedos

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Without science, their opinion is no better than that of the clergyman. Whether there is something "wrong" is more of a societal decision.
    It is science, it's observation which the medical health professionals base their conclusions on. They see a lot of people, mentally sick to mentally healthy. They can make correlations from the data they observe. What they have observed is that sexuality is independent of psychology.
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    Re: Bishop says kids ‘spontaneously’ gay and pedos

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Apologies. In the sentence before you said:

    Without science, their opinion is no better than that of the clergyman. Whether there is something "wrong" is more of a societal decision.
    Actually it is better than a clergyman. Their studies in their field determines what something is not. Example, I'm not an "expert" in my field, but my studies in it help me determine how something is made. I see something like this:



    And I know it wasn't 'made' with Photoshop. I know it wasn't created with a Wacom tablet. I know it wasn't painted with water color. It wasn't created with a digital camera. It wasn't created through any modern techniques. I 'might' not know who it was created by but I know how to 'read' the data I see. That puts me a few light years distance from some silly tourist who walks by the same image and says 'oh, of course it was made with Photoshop', simply because they say it is.
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