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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Round and round we go. I ask the question Why not?
    Good question: Let's put it in a specific CONTEXT.

    You're wearing an American Flag t-shirt and bandanna to the Puerto Rican day parade in New York. Why not?

    Context 1: You're hanging with your friend and his Puerto Rican grandmother, singing, dancing, eating, enjoying the celebration of culture.

    Context 2: You and three friends (all dressed like you) are standing off by yourselves, eyeing everyone else with distain.

    In which context are you likely to get your ass kicked?


    If the four stooges at Live Oak high had been hanging with their Mexican-American friends, working the Spanish club booth, cheering the dancers and Mariachi band... their shirts and bandanas would have been invisible.

    But as described in the story, they were sitting off by themselves when several students approached them and asked why they chose to wear the flag bandanas and t-shirts.

    The moral: Three wrongs don't make a right.

    1)The students who approached them were wrong to do--just leave it alone. Don't give them the satisfaction by feeding into their trollish behavior. And don't be so thin-skinned.

    2)The school was wrong to send them home. A wise administrator would have asked them Why? And when the boys came back with "patriotism" b.s., he could have pressed them a little further, let them know he's not fooled... but then send them back to 5th period. If there was a fight, then most schools will send both parties home. Parents have 0 recourse.

    3)Lastly, the four boys didn't break any rules. Didn't violate school policy. They were just being dicks, plain and simple. Trying to push some buttons, get a reaction from other students.

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Perhaps the same reason some celebrate Christmas even though Christianity came from another country. Many people bring their traditions with them, but in the Mexican's case their ancestors were probably here first.
    Religion and national holidays are hardly the same.


    Its amazing you even tried to compare the two.

    Religion has no national border.

    National holidays do.

    It is amusing for you to pretend a national holiday less than 200 years old is something the ancient people who occupied some land of the united states celebrated as part of their culture.
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Good question: Let's put it in a specific CONTEXT.

    You're wearing an American Flag t-shirt and bandanna to the Puerto Rican day parade in New York. Why not?

    Context 1: You're hanging with your friend and his Puerto Rican grandmother, singing, dancing, eating, enjoying the celebration of culture.

    Context 2: You and three friends (all dressed like you) are standing off by yourselves, eyeing everyone else with distain.

    In which context are you likely to get your ass kicked?
    Are you assuming that I should actually give a flying **** if some assholes are going to get violent over me wearing the colors of my ****ing country while IN my ****ing country?

    If some dickwad wants to get pissy about my flag, that's his problem. And if HE starts a fight over it, then he's guilty of assault.

    So again, why not?

    1)The students who approached them were wrong to do--just leave it alone. Don't give them the satisfaction by feeding into their trollish behavior. And don't be so thin-skinned.
    I agree, the other students shouldn't have asked such a retarded question. And the flag wearing students shouldn't have bothered giving the trolls a response other than "Why not?"

    2)The school was wrong to send them home. A wise administrator would have asked them Why? And when the boys came back with "patriotism" b.s., he could have pressed them a little further, let them know he's not fooled... but then send them back to 5th period. If there was a fight, then most schools will send both parties home. Parents have 0 recourse.
    Agreed. Though the administrator need not have asked the students anything at all about their shirts.

    3)Lastly, the four boys didn't break any rules. Didn't violate school policy. They were just being dicks, plain and simple. Trying to push some buttons, get a reaction from other students.
    It's never dickish to proudly display US patriotic symbols within the US. The only dick would be the person who gets pissy about it.

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Religion and national holidays are hardly the same.


    Its amazing you even tried to compare the two.

    Religion has no national border.

    National holidays do.

    It is amusing for you to pretend a national holiday less than 200 years old is something the ancient people who occupied some land of the united states celebrated as part of their culture.
    Should all holidays that are not part of your culture be banned? Some people still have ties to other countries and there is nothing wrong with that. My wife is an immigrant and still observes her national holidays and traditions. It's part of who she is. This is still a free country.
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    It's never dickish to proudly display US patriotic symbols within the US. The only dick would be the person who gets pissy about it.
    Morgan Hill students sent home from school for wearing American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo | abc7news.com
    Take a look at their shirts and tell me that's a proud way to dislpay the American flag.
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Should all holidays that are not part of your culture be banned? Some people still have ties to other countries and there is nothing wrong with that. My wife is an immigrant and still observes her national holidays and traditions. It's part of who she is. This is still a free country.
    I'll say it again. It is not a cultural holiday. It is a state holiday from another nation.

    And yes it is a free country. Punishing those who display pride in the flag of the nation they actually reside in is an abomination.
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I'll say it again. It is not a cultural holiday. It is a state holiday from another nation.

    And yes it is a free country. Punishing those who display pride in the flag of the nation they actually reside in is an abomination.
    Did you see the shirts they were wearing? It was a disgraceful display. No pride involved whatsoever. The abomination was the way they desecrated the flag.
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Morgan Hill students sent home from school for wearing American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo | abc7news.com
    Take a look at their shirts and tell me that's a proud way to dislpay the American flag.
    I've seen the shirt, and I don't see a damn thing wrong with it.

    I'm not one of these silly "flag code" nazis.

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I'll say it again. It is not a cultural holiday. It is a state holiday from another nation.

    And yes it is a free country. Punishing those who display pride in the flag of the nation they actually reside in is an abomination.
    Did you see the shirts they were wearing? It was a disgraceful display. No pride involved whatsoever. The abomination was the way they desecrated the flag..

    It is a cultural holiday.
    While Cinco de Mayo sees limited significance and celebration nationwide in Mexico, the date is observed nationwide in the United States and other locations around the world as a celebration of Mexican heritage and pride.
    "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."" GWB

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Did you see the shirts they were wearing? It was a disgraceful display. No pride involved whatsoever. The abomination was the way they desecrated the flag.
    Oh spare me. You could say the same thing about the way the Mexicans displayed their flag.

    You've lost and now you're trying to nitpick to win. Pretty sad.
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