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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Why should an American have to apologize for wearing something American.....ever?
    when it violates accepted flag etiquette
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    The "offensive shirts" were two old navy shirts, and two "tap-out" shirts apparently.
    The only thing offensive about Old Navy is their commercials.

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The only thing offensive about Old Navy is their commercials.



    True dat.....
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The only thing offensive about Old Navy is their commercials.
    And you're not supposed to use an American flag for advertising purposes either...

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The only thing offensive about Old Navy is their commercials.
    Thanks, needed a funny this morning........

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    I've been mulling this over for a few days now and I've got to the conclusion that a lot of this division about Flag Code, particularly whether or not a flag on a t-shirt really is a flag or not, is the two sides talking past each other.

    Reading the Flag Code, it is unequivocal that flags are not the be worn as apparel, and can only appear on clothing in the limited circumstances of lapel pins worn above the heart and patches sewn on patriotic uniforms. There is no other circumstance where a Flag can be worn that is not a violation of the Code, that much is clear.

    What is not so clear, and what I have perhaps wrongly been taking for granted, is that a violation of the Flag Code is necessarily disrespectful. A violation of Flag Code is just that, a violation of a voluntary law. It is not a crime, you cannot be jailed or fined for violating Flag Code. I think that respect perhaps has more to do with the person's intention than the letter of the law. For someone like myself, who is aware of and understand the restrictions contained in the Flag Code, wearing a flag is necessarily a disrespectful action, and something I would never do. On the other hand, for someone unaware of the nature of the Flag Code, or someone who has read it and (bona fide) misunderstood it, then the action of wearing the flag might still very well carry with it the intention of respect for the flag and the country it represents.

    Of course, this does not change the rules put forth by the Flag Code, but perhaps I have been too overbearing in my tone in this discussion. I want to help my brother and sister Americans to understand the true nature of their actions, to win them over to the proper interpretation of the Flag Code. I don't want to deepen the divide and harden you to position by preaching at you. So I will say this much, that when you wear the on a t-shirt, with respect in your heart and an honest misunderstanding of the rules, it is only a technical desecration. I can't really say that you are desecrating the Flag in spirit

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I've been mulling this over for a few days now and I've got to the conclusion that a lot of this division about Flag Code, particularly whether or not a flag on a t-shirt really is a flag or not, is the two sides talking past each other.

    Reading the Flag Code, it is unequivocal that flags are not the be worn as apparel, and can only appear on clothing in the limited circumstances of lapel pins worn above the heart and patches sewn on patriotic uniforms. There is no other circumstance where a Flag can be worn that is not a violation of the Code, that much is clear.

    What is not so clear, and what I have perhaps wrongly been taking for granted, is that a violation of the Flag Code is necessarily disrespectful. A violation of Flag Code is just that, a violation of a voluntary law. It is not a crime, you cannot be jailed or fined for violating Flag Code. I think that respect perhaps has more to do with the person's intention than the letter of the law. For someone like myself, who is aware of and understand the restrictions contained in the Flag Code, wearing a flag is necessarily a disrespectful action, and something I would never do. On the other hand, for someone unaware of the nature of the Flag Code, or someone who has read it and (bona fide) misunderstood it, then the action of wearing the flag might still very well carry with it the intention of respect for the flag and the country it represents.

    Of course, this does not change the rules put forth by the Flag Code, but perhaps I have been too overbearing in my tone in this discussion. I want to help my brother and sister Americans to understand the true nature of their actions, to win them over to the proper interpretation of the Flag Code. I don't want to deepen the divide and harden you to position by preaching at you. So I will say this much, that when you wear the on a t-shirt, with respect in your heart and an honest misunderstanding of the rules, it is only a technical desecration. I can't really say that you are desecrating the Flag in spirit
    I will concede that. Thank you for such a thoughtful post.

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Thanks jallman, I appreciate the spirited debate with Redbeard, Hellhound and yourself.

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    when it violates accepted flag etiquette
    It didn't violate anything. The principal of that school is a racist and the school board has already stated his actions were inappropriate.

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I've been mulling this over for a few days now and I've got to the conclusion that a lot of this division about Flag Code, particularly whether or not a flag on a t-shirt really is a flag or not, is the two sides talking past each other.

    Reading the Flag Code, it is unequivocal that flags are not the be worn as apparel, and can only appear on clothing in the limited circumstances of lapel pins worn above the heart and patches sewn on patriotic uniforms. There is no other circumstance where a Flag can be worn that is not a violation of the Code, that much is clear.

    What is not so clear, and what I have perhaps wrongly been taking for granted, is that a violation of the Flag Code is necessarily disrespectful. A violation of Flag Code is just that, a violation of a voluntary law. It is not a crime, you cannot be jailed or fined for violating Flag Code. I think that respect perhaps has more to do with the person's intention than the letter of the law. For someone like myself, who is aware of and understand the restrictions contained in the Flag Code, wearing a flag is necessarily a disrespectful action, and something I would never do. On the other hand, for someone unaware of the nature of the Flag Code, or someone who has read it and (bona fide) misunderstood it, then the action of wearing the flag might still very well carry with it the intention of respect for the flag and the country it represents.

    Of course, this does not change the rules put forth by the Flag Code, but perhaps I have been too overbearing in my tone in this discussion. I want to help my brother and sister Americans to understand the true nature of their actions, to win them over to the proper interpretation of the Flag Code. I don't want to deepen the divide and harden you to position by preaching at you. So I will say this much, that when you wear the on a t-shirt, with respect in your heart and an honest misunderstanding of the rules, it is only a technical desecration. I can't really say that you are desecrating the Flag in spirit
    As long as the article being worn was not made from a real flag; i.e. a reproduction, it's NOT a violation of the flag code. Wearing a picture of a flag is not a bad thing.


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