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    rolleyes Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Do these students even understand the history behind cinco de mayo?
    I doubt it. Just another way to squash freedom of expression if it has ANYTHING to do with being an American.

    We have fought long and hard to maintain our rights in this country.

    The day anybody in my family is told to take off anything associated with our American flag will be a cold day in hell.

    Somebody is always offended about something. So sad, too bad. The word "offensive" is one of the most overused words today in our country.

    The shirts in "question" have been worn before and will continue to be worn.
    Whether these students wore them to start "trouble" is moot. They had the right to wear them, regardless of some unseen reason for hurt feelings and a general need for some to play victim.

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Please tell these mexicans to shut the **** up and stop bitching. This is america.
    Great advice. I'm sure public school principles get that same advice during their instruction on how to manage a freedom-of-expression-institute...err, I mean public school.

    No one gets upset on st. pats day if I wear an American flag.... Why should thes mexicans..
    It's taken as racism, or at least "get the F out".
    Yes, it was probably meant more to be anti-immigration protest, which isn't *necessarily* racist, sure. But harssment doesn't always require reasoning to warrant stopping it, and the link between anti-immigration and racism floats on the surface right now. It wasn't banned right? They were just asked to accomodate what others thought was offensive for one day. Big whoop either way.

    besides its quite ironic they are upset at American flags on a fake mexican holiday created for the American beer market.
    No doubt. Religions and nations cannibalize all sorts of tradition from other sources and other reasons, most are ironic when you dig a little.
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You were specifically talking about Mexico so I was specifically answering about Mexico

    I was NOT specifically talking about Mexico, someone had said that there is a world beyond the United States so I said that it must not be great because people try to come in from all directions (the "everyone and their brother" comment). You ASSUMED I meant Mexico, and you know what they say assuming does.
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Great advice. I'm sure public school principles get that same advice during their instruction on how to manage a freedom-of-expression-institute...err, I mean public school.
    The Supreme Court clearly ruled that a student doesn't leave their rights at the door.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    It's taken as racism, or at least "get the F out".
    Yes, it was probably meant more to be anti-immigration protest, which isn't *necessarily* racist, sure. But harssment doesn't always require reasoning to warrant stopping it, and the link between anti-immigration and racism floats on the surface right now. It wasn't banned right? They were just asked to accomodate what others thought was offensive for one day. Big whoop either way.
    One of the students was part Hispanic.
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    This isn't about the flag shirts (didn't Kid Rock get dissed for wearing one to a Super-bowl game?)

    The flag boys were wanting to cause a disruption. Principals don't like disruptions. I would have sent them home to change and told them to be back in school in one hour.

    You've got to discipline the juveniles.



    uhm yeah, cinco de mayo is a fake holiday, why again would you send Americans wearing american flags home?



    My bet is that if this were reversed and they sent mexican kids home for wearing the mexican flag on the forth, you'd be pretty much all up in arms over it,.
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This is sick, this principle should be fired,
    The kids should sue the living **** out of this person and the school district.

    and the chicanos who are all but hurt about Americans wearing the American flag should STFU and get a life or repatriate to that dump of a country they came from.
    They need to GTFO of this country if they're offended by an American flag. If I was these kids I'd go in and trample of the Mexican flag as burning it is a fire code violation whereas trampling on it is protected speech.

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I agree that this is ridiculous, but has there been a history of ethnic conflict on the school campus? The boys admittedly were wearing the shirt to get a rise out of Latino students and potentially start a conflict.

    However, the principal needs to take a class on dress code do's and don'ts.
    The American Flag can NEVER be banned speech.

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    This isn't about the flag shirts (didn't Kid Rock get dissed for wearing one to a Super-bowl game?)

    The flag boys were wanting to cause a disruption. Principals don't like disruptions. I would have sent them home to change and told them to be back in school in one hour.

    You've got to discipline the juveniles.
    This is backwards thinking and far too often celebrated amongst the "very liberal" who seemingly seek to thrust forward the "white guilt" mentality. Instead of casting the four out, the rest of the school should be told to find a way to feel more secure about their ethnicity. Or will Mexican Flags be banned on the appropriate day henceforth?

    If a protestor shows up at one of my Marine's funerals is he asked to leave because it offends me or that it may disrupt proceedings? Or am I to suck it up and allow him his civil rights and jack-assery while he screams and shouts his opinions?
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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Actually, it isn't irrelevant.

    Actually it is, the American flag can never be banned speech.

    Motive & effect are extremely important in school dress code issues.

    For instance, I've seen schools ban wearing of rosaries and other religious symbols because gang members were using them to identify their affiliation at school (rosaries in the color of the usually latino gangs, the six-pointed star of david used to signify folks affiliation).

    If the school deems the attire disruptive to the school climate, and is able to show that this has been the case by documenting exactly how the garment or item has been disruptive, the school can ban the attire.
    No the school must be able to PROVE that it "materially and substantially interfere with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school" (Tinker V. Des Moines)

    The rights of students to free expression is trumped by the need to keep the school safe, and that has been consistently upheld in court.
    The idea that the American flag could possibly cause substantial material interference with discipline would only prove one thing and that this school and the students offended by the flag are beyond help and it needs to be shut down and the aforementioned students expelled from the school district or sent to alternative school.

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    Re: Students Wearing American Flag Shirts Sent Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Since when has antagonizing minority students on the basis of race or nationality, a good thing to be occuring at public schools? Is it because they did it passively that you don't object?
    Since when was being offended by the American flag acceptable behavior?


    We had guys wear confederate flags on campus to make a statement against african americans. This is in the south, where it's about a 50/50 split no less. It ended up in a 20 person brawl.
    Then whoever threw the first punches should have been suspended and arrested.

    Principles have the right to keep their student body in check, including doing stupid things to possibly prevent *really* stupid things. It's their call.
    The right to freedom of expression does not stop at the school gates. By your reasoning if a white person was offended by a Star of David, a Mexican Flag, or a Malcolm X insignia then those should likewise be within banning parameters.
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