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    U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    The Interior Department exempted BP's calamitous Gulf of Mexico drilling operation from a detailed environmental impact analysis last year, according to government documents, after three reviews of the area concluded that a massive oil spill was unlikely.

    The decision by the department's Minerals Management Service (MMS) to give BP's lease at Deepwater Horizon a "categorical exclusion" from the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) on April 6, 2009 -- and BP's lobbying efforts just 11 days before the explosion to expand those exemptions -- show that neither federal regulators nor the company anticipated an accident of the scale of the one unfolding in the gulf.
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    Sounds like someone's got some "splaining" to do. I am 100% for drilling in our offshore waters, but precautions have to be taken. Plans have to be in place to deal with disastrous spills, even if they are highly unlikely.

    First we find out that booms to collect the oil for burning were nowhere to be found, despite a plan to use them in case of a spill that was written in 1994, now this. The Feds had to go to the boom manufacturer, who had only one available. They then had to beg other countries for some.

    This exemption granted last year is all on the Obama administration, so they can't blame it on Bush.

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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    IMO, the regulators bear a degree of responsibility for their policy decision.

    I believe when an activity has a risk (even when the probability of its occurrence is very low) of creating a severe or catastrophically damaging outcome, regulators should insist on thorough reviews and implementation of best practices/technology. Costs of compliance should be treated as irrelevant to the policy making process when the gravity of the risk involved, even if it is a low probability one, is extreme or catastrophic. This accident is another example of tail risk playing out (as was the financial crisis).

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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
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    Sounds like someone's got some "splaining" to do. I am 100% for drilling in our offshore waters, but precautions have to be taken. Plans have to be in place to deal with disastrous spills, even if they are highly unlikely.

    First we find out that booms to collect the oil for burning were nowhere to be found, despite a plan to use them in case of a spill that was written in 1994, now this. The Feds had to go to the boom manufacturer, who had only one available. They then had to beg other countries for some.

    This exemption granted last year is all on the Obama administration, so they can't blame it on Bush.
    I'll be interested to hear/read their "splanation." Tsk tsk

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    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I'll be interested to hear/read their "splanation." Tsk tsk
    Yep, should be interesting to hear the double speak and watch the finger pointing. My bet is that they'll lay the blame on BP.

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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Good thing they did. Looks like the damned thing leaks oil.

    But I'm not surprised in the least that the government would cozy up to big money operations and perhaps put the rest of us at risk/lie to us/falsely report to us in order for them to protect their big money friends. Honestly, is anyone still surprised by this?
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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    If the federal government had not granted BP an exemption we'd see a thread here by Libertarian and capitalist friends complaining about how the government is meddling in the free market. But the federal did grant the exemption and did not babysit BP as it was conducting business.

    At what point does it become the fault of BP for not meeting the required safety standards? Do we even know what caused the accident yet?
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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    From what my dad is telling me about this law is basically it makes you do a study on why you brush your teeth. They already knew about the effect it would have, so it would have been a waste of money.

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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If the federal government had not granted BP an exemption we'd see a thread here by Libertarian and capitalist friends complaining about how the government is meddling in the free market. But the federal did grant the exemption and did not babysit BP as it was conducting business.

    At what point does it become the fault of BP for not meeting the required safety standards? Do we even know what caused the accident yet?
    I believe most thinking people have placed the blame for the spill on BP since it started. The blame for the response to the spill is another matter.

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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    From what my dad is telling me about this law is basically it makes you do a study on why you brush your teeth. They already knew about the effect it would have, so it would have been a waste of money.
    That's funny. I always heard that libs were in favor of Environmental Impact Studies. Guess it depends on the situation, eh?

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