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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I blamed:

    1. The hurricane
    2. People that insisted on living in a city below sea level, although they were warned for at least 25 years what would happen if they got hit by a hurricane.
    3. The people that were too stupid to leave the city when they had the chance.


    Any more questions I can help you with??
    So then in that case you blamed people who had no means of responding to a hurricane and not the federal and state governments who had plans to deal with such a situation. In this case you're blaming the government for not running the same sort of plan even though it was an accident caused by a private company with enough means to avoid such an accident. Hm. Seems conveniently partisan.
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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If the federal government had not granted BP an exemption we'd see a thread here by Libertarian and capitalist friends complaining about how the government is meddling in the free market. But the federal did grant the exemption and did not babysit BP as it was conducting business.

    At what point does it become the fault of BP for not meeting the required safety standards? Do we even know what caused the accident yet?
    Do we even know what caused the accident yet?
    What an excellent point to make.

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    As a (at one time) lawyer even he should know that until the evidence, all the evidence, has been presented to the Court of Inquiry all supposition is just that, it is not evidence.

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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So then in that case you blamed people who had no means of responding to a hurricane and not the federal and state governments who had plans to deal with such a situation. In this case you're blaming the government for not running the same sort of plan even though it was an accident caused by a private company with enough means to avoid such an accident. Hm. Seems conveniently partisan.
    Most had the means and the opportunity to leave N.O., as thousands of others did. They simply chose not to.

    Partisan ?? You calling someone else partisan gave me a good laugh.

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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    How's this:



    They need to polish up the oil spill contingency plans required by this Act.
    nope.......the coast guard is repsonsible for contingency plans, NOT prevention. ROLES, gill, roles.

    nothing in what you posted even remotely suggests the coast guard is responsible for PREVENTION, as you claimed, becasue they are NOT.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    nope.......the coast guard is repsonsible for contingency plans, NOT prevention. ROLES, gill, roles.

    nothing in what you posted even remotely suggests the coast guard is responsible for PREVENTION, as you claimed, becasue they are NOT.
    Really? I guess the word "prevention" that I highlighted in red and was listed as a Coast Guard responsibility was simply a typo ???

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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Based-on this article, it appears shenanigans have been happening for at last the last 8 years:

    WASHINGTON — As Congress prepares to debate expansion of drilling in taxpayer-owned coastal waters, the Interior Department agency that collects oil and gas royalties has been caught up in a wide-ranging ethics scandal — including allegations of financial self-dealing, accepting gifts from energy companies, cocaine use and sexual misconduct.

    In three reports delivered to Congress on Wednesday, the department’s inspector general, Earl E. Devaney, found wrongdoing by a dozen current and former employees of the Minerals Management Service, which collects about $10 billion in royalties annually and is one of the government’s largest sources of revenue other than taxes.

    “A culture of ethical failure” pervades the agency, Mr. Devaney wrote in a cover memo.

    The reports portray a dysfunctional organization that has been riddled with conflicts of interest, unprofessional behavior and a free-for-all atmosphere for much of the Bush administration’s watch.
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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    and the BOOMS were called for back in 1994

    the point is---obama's sposed to FIX it

    that's why he was elected

    he failed

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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So then in that case you blamed people who had no means of responding to a hurricane and not the federal and state governments who had plans to deal with such a situation. In this case you're blaming the government for not running the same sort of plan even though it was an accident caused by a private company with enough means to avoid such an accident. Hm. Seems conveniently partisan.
    You didn't blame bitch about Bush and Brownie not doing enough to help? Be honest!!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Most had the means and the opportunity to leave N.O., as thousands of others did. They simply chose not to.

    Partisan ?? You calling someone else partisan gave me a good laugh.
    Word on the oilfield street, is that engineers said not to put the fire out, but the CG ignored them and fought the fire, anyway. According to the engineers, putting the fire out caused nore harm than good.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You didn't blame bitch about Bush and Brownie not doing enough to help? Be honest!!
    Did I blame the government for not reacting when a government constructed levee failed? Ummm yes. Did I blame the government when a private company had an accident? No. Do you see the reason why? I'll give you a quick clue - In the first case - THE PEOPLE WHO CONSTRUCTED THE LEVEES WERE BLAMED - IN THE SECOND - THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OIL SPILL WERE BLAMED.
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