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Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

digsbe said:
Well the facts are that Planned Parenthood has more clinics in black neighborhood with black women having more abortions. They were also founded by a racist eugenicist.
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I've already addressed this.
 
Deuce said:
I've already addressed this.
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Good, but again even though you address it the facts still stand that the organization was founded by a racist bigot and has more abortion clinics in minority neighborhoods.
 
TheHat said:
I do know this. As medical technology has gotten better, the ability to take a baby from the womb and keep it alive is getting better at younger and younger ages during pregnancy. With that advancement in medical technology, laws are going to be effected, as they already have. As this medical technology, to save lives, gets even better, babies will be kept alive at even earlier and earlier times during pregnancy until babies aren't even carried within the womb. At that point in medical advancement, what will the laws be? This is the future of medical technology folks. This is the route it is taking. Laws are going to change with it, and along with that comes a change in mindset on abortion and a whole host of other life issues b/c at that point, abortion becomes null and avoid does it not? And at that point what will the pro-death crowds chant be to abort babies then, when mothers don't even carry their young in the womb?
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Do you even make sense to yourself?
 
digsbe said:
Good, but again even though you address it the facts still stand that the organization was founded by a racist bigot and has more abortion clinics in minority neighborhoods.
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So are you just going to keep posting this over and over ignoring the fact that there is not any racist motivation behind these clinics and there location presently?
 
Deuce said:
So are you just going to keep posting this over and over ignoring the fact that there is not any racist motivation behind these clinics and there location presently?
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I believe there is racist motivation. From the beginning there has been obvious racial motivation, and it seems like that hasn't gone away. The Negro Project and Margaret Sanger The fact is that minorities account for roughly 40% of all abortions, and most clinics are in minority neighborhoods.
 
digsbe said:
Well the facts are that Planned Parenthood has more clinics in black neighborhood with black women having more abortions. They were also founded by a racist eugenicist.
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This country was founded by slave owning racists. What does that mean?

Things change. Nice try though.
 
misterman said:
This country was founded by slave owning racists. What does that mean?

Things change. Nice try though.
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Planned Parenthood hasn't changed. Their leader has died, but her views and practices are still alive.
 
digsbe said:
Planned Parenthood hasn't changed. Their leader has died, but her views and practices are still alive.
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Yes, it has changed, and you have no evidence to say otherwise.
 
misterman said:
Yes, it has changed, and you have no evidence to say otherwise.
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Go check the link I posted in a previous post. Also here is a recent event where planned parenthood was willing to accept funds from a blatant racist to have his donation being spent to kill only black babies. Planned Parenthood Accepting Donations From Racist Whites For The Purpose Of Aborting Only Black Babies Barbados Free Press Sadly youtube has removed the video because it "violates the terms of use," but the text and commentary is still there. Planned Parenthood even said it was "understandable" when the donator commented that the less black people the better. Planned Parenthood is indeed a racist organization.
 
digsbe said:
I believe there is racist motivation. From the beginning there has been obvious racial motivation, and it seems like that hasn't gone away. The Negro Project and Margaret Sanger The fact is that minorities account for roughly 40% of all abortions, and most clinics are in minority neighborhoods.
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How is that racist? If facts show that blacks on the majority have morre abortions, opening a clinic in a black neighborhood makes sense.

Of course if it was opened anywhere else it wouldn't be racism right? :spin:
 
Cilogy said:
How is that racist? If facts show that blacks on the majority have morre abortions, opening a clinic in a black neighborhood makes sense.

Of course if it was opened anywhere else it wouldn't be racism right? :spin:
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One could say that they target black neighborhoods because they want blacks to have more abortions. Please see the link I posted in my previous post.
 
digsbe said:
Go check the link I posted in a previous post. Also here is a recent event where planned parenthood was willing to accept funds from a blatant racist to have his donation being spent to kill only black babies. Planned Parenthood Accepting Donations From Racist Whites For The Purpose Of Aborting Only Black Babies Barbados Free Press Sadly youtube has removed the video because it "violates the terms of use," but the text and commentary is still there. Planned Parenthood even said it was "understandable" when the donator commented that the less black people the better. Planned Parenthood is indeed a racist organization.
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You seriously expect me to believe that? It's so fundamentally stupid that anyone can see it's a total hoax. I can't believe you would fall for that. Don't expect me to. Get serious.
 
misterman said:
You seriously expect me to believe that? It's so fundamentally stupid that anyone can see it's a total hoax. I can't believe you would fall for that. Don't expect me to. Get serious.
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Denial is so convenient isn't it? The content is indeed true. I found a video that hasn't been removed. http://vodpod.com/watch/3502436-planned-parenthood-accepting-racist-donations-sting This isn't the same one, but the same thing basically happened. The woman says they would accept the money for "any reason" and doesn't ever say the man was wrong for being racist or wanting to abort only black children. Here's another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKtqQxcBdFo&feature=player_embedded#!
 
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I have to say this again? Socio-economic factors lead to a higher abortion rate among minorities. Blaming this on the clinic is absurd. The clinics are in those areas because that's where the demand for abortions is. Simple economics. If a white woman from the suburbs wants an abortion, do you really think the fact that she has to drive an extra few miles is going to be the deciding factor?

Your sense of cause and effect is off.
 
Deuce said:
I have to say this again? Socio-economic factors lead to a higher abortion rate among minorities. Blaming this on the clinic is absurd. The clinics are in those areas because that's where the demand for abortions is. Simple economics. If a white woman from the suburbs wants an abortion, do you really think the fact that she has to drive an extra few miles is going to be the deciding factor?

Your sense of cause and effect is off.
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All I'm doing is looking at the evidence. The founder was racist, the organization accepts donations from racists, and they chose to put their clinics in black neighborhoods. One could say they go out of their way to ensure and promote black abortions. Remember, roughly 60% of abortions are done by white women (still the majority) yet the chose to locate in minority neighborhoods. Facts and video proof show that they are racist, plus they cover up childhood abortions and sexual crimes. It's like the acorn of the abortion world.
 
digsbe said:
One could say that they target black neighborhoods because they want blacks to have more abortions. Please see the link I posted in my previous post.
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Yeah and companies open banks near new suburbs because they want them to get declare bankruptcy.

Gimme a break.
 
Cilogy said:
Yeah and companies open banks near new suburbs because they want them to get declare bankruptcy.

Gimme a break.
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As I've said. White women still account for roughly 60% of abortions, they are the majority. Yet the clinics open up in minority neighborhoods and seem to target minority groups.
 
Requiring an ultrasound before an abortion serves no medical purpose, therefore there's no need for it.
 
digsbe said:
As I've said. White women still account for roughly 60% of abortions, they are the majority. Yet the clinics open up in minority neighborhoods and seem to target minority groups.
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White women go to their white OBGYN...with their white insurance card...and get their abortions at a nice clean expensive office...

There are more white abortions because there are more whites.
 
hazlnut said:
White women go to their white OBGYN...with their white insurance card...and get their abortions at a nice clean expensive office...

There are more white abortions because there are more whites.
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Yes, but there is also a disproportionate amount of black abortions when compared to whites. Any abortion is sad and frankly should be made illegal. No woman has the right to chemically assault, suck the brains out of, or mutilate her unborn child.
 
molten_dragon said:
Requiring an ultrasound before an abortion serves no medical purpose, therefore there's no need for it.
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Well...The far-righties in the OK Coral think that the image of a cell mass in in your uterus will make you reconsider...

The turning the monitor toward the women and forcing them to watch reminds me of Clockwork Orange...

Why don't they just play baby music in the background, and force the patient to take the aborted fetus home in a bottle and carrying it around for a week.
 
digsbe said:
Yes, but there is also a disproportionate amount of black abortions when compared to whites. Any abortion is sad and frankly should be made illegal. No woman has the right to chemically assault, suck the brains out of, or mutilate her unborn child.
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Only a small number of abortions involve a viable fetus. And those are extreme situations with medical issues that are frankly over the heads of far-righties in the OK legislature...
 
hazlnut said:
Only a small number of abortions involve a viable fetus. And those are extreme situations with medical issues that are frankly over the heads of far-righties in the OK legislature...
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Does it matter? No. All abortions, viable fetus or not, should be illegal because it's murder. Many of these places murder the children that survive a botched abortion. They deny them medical care and stuff them in a room to die, or they throw them away while they are still living. Such barbaric monsters.
 
digsbe said:
Does it matter? No. All abortions, viable fetus or not, should be illegal because it's murder. Many of these places murder the children that survive a botched abortion. They deny them medical care and stuff them in a room to die, or they throw them away while they are still living. Such barbaric monsters.
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Then we aren't even talking about racism even more, this is a game of "Who Is More Of A Winger."

Why the hell do men have an opinion on abortion?
 
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