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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Read the 9th amendment and get back to us.
    Yes I read the 9th. It doesn't say **** about abortion. Nice try though.

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yes I read the 9th. It doesn't say **** about abortion. Nice try though.


    This has got to be one of the funniest posts ever!

    Read it again. Carefully:

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yes I read the 9th. It doesn't say **** about abortion. Nice try though.

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    Nor does it say **** about television, popsicles or those funny beer drinking hats, yet somehow we understand that we have the right to have those things.

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post


    This has got to be one of the funniest posts ever!

    Read it again. Carefully:
    It basically means that certain listed (edenumerate) rights shall not be used to deny rights retained by the people.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I am laughing my ass off watching democrats in this thread and are all for a full on public option having a problem with the government mandating a certain type of procedure while on the other hand some republicans that cry, cry, cry non-stop about the public option and government in health care defending a law that mandates an individual to have a medical procedure performed on them.
    The public option didn't force procedures on anybody, this is absurd.
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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Nor does it say **** about television, popsicles or those funny beer drinking hats, yet somehow we understand that we have the right to have those things.
    I am pretty sure Television and beer drinking hats would fall under the first amendment under free speech. Popsicles on the other hand could probably be banned seeing how some areas ban certain foods and certain food ingredients.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Not her job. That's pure activism. She has no right to stop it.
    WRONG!!!!!

    It was a bad law created by a group of reglious zealots who cannot understand their religion has no place on the Senate floor.

    That law is a direct violation of federal precedent. The republican party needs to be told to keep their religious beliefs out of politics or they need to be permenantly barred from holding office.

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    There is NO LAW she can cite to grant that request. Thats the point.
    WRONG AGAIN!

    There is federal precedent... it's called Roe vs Wade.

    The right needs to learn to keep their religion and morality out of politics are they need to be removed from politics PERMENANTLY.

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Basically I read somewhere that this law would also give doctors the right to not tell the mother that they baby has a birth deficit, and this is emotional blackmail....
    My understanding is that the doctors DON"T have to tell the mother/parents that there unborn child has medical problems and cannot be sued for with holding the information. That to me is wrong. In fact, it is the part of the law that is most worrisome to me. I do not have a problem with the ultrasound if it is handled appropriately and not use as information and not as a battering weapon against the mother. When it sanity going to reamerge among our law making bodies and our citizenry.

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Absolutely correct decision by the courts. This is unconstitutional in my mind, the government has NO authority to force you to undergo medical procedures.

    I am laughing my ass off watching democrats in this thread and are all for a full on public option having a problem with the government mandating a certain type of procedure while on the other hand some republicans that cry, cry, cry non-stop about the public option and government in health care defending a law that mandates an individual to have a medical procedure performed on them.

    However I will say that the passing of this law is a symptom of a larger problem, and that's the federal government interfering with states rights in regards to Roe V. Wade. This should be a state issue and because the Federal Governments have taken that away then its only natural that States are going to try to assert their rightful dominion over this kind of law in some way shape or form to reflect the beliefs of their people. That does not make this particular law correct, it absolutely isn't, but its the reason why these kind of end around type things are done.

    The "conservatives for small government" issue is much like my view in regards to Net Neutrality. There comes a point where you realize that the obvious small government option ("remove it") is not going to happen so you then are forced to find a way to act within the system to count-act it as best as possible.
    As is obvious by this case ... some states WILL NOT follow the law unless the federal government puts a foot up their asses.

    This is especially true in states where republican religious zealots try to govern by making laws that force their religious beliefs on everybody. Clearly, Republicans need to be told to keep their office and their religion seperate. If they cannot, they need to be removed from office.

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