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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    your analogies don't make sense. what is the purpose of an ultrasound for a fetus that is going to be aborted? there is no earthly reason for it. given that, this law is ridiculous.
    Its simple, the pro-death crowd knows, that a woman who sees her baby in an ultrasound, is less likely to abort her baby.

    Even the former head of NARAL, realizes that the ultrasound is bringing women into enlightenment on the issue of abortion and that their baby is more then just a "blob of cells".

    Of course, we can just keep hoping Planned Parenthood will tell the truth to the women who go into their death clinics, which we know to not be the case.

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Since when was a fetus a baby?

    Try something harder, that was a softball.
    Since when was a fetus, other then a baby? You do realize, the term "fetus" is just a term given to a developing baby, that is no different then newborn, toddler, adolescent, adult right?

    Calling the baby a fetus within its designated time frame in the human life cycle, doesn't make it not human or not a baby.

    But I guess you knew this already right?

    Try something harder, that was a softball.

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Which makes the conservatives arguing in favor of this really confusing to me. THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SUPPOSED TO OPPOSE.
    The people arguing FOR this kind of government intrusion are letting their feelings about abortion cloud their judgment on the matter.

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Which makes the conservatives arguing in favor of this really confusing to me. THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SUPPOSED TO OPPOSE.
    This "procedure", involves the well being of another individual life, that is on the verge of being killed simply b/c the mother doesn't want to deal with her own actions in life.

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Its simple, the pro-death crowd knows, that a woman who sees her baby in an ultrasound, is less likely to abort her baby.

    Even the former head of NARAL, realizes that the ultrasound is bringing women into enlightenment on the issue of abortion and that their baby is more then just a "blob of cells".

    Of course, we can just keep hoping Planned Parenthood will tell the truth to the women who go into their death clinics, which we know to not be the case.
    See you in court.
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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Since when was a fetus, other then a baby? You do realize, the term "fetus" is just a term given to a developing baby, that is no different then newborn, toddler, adolescent, adult right?

    Calling the baby a fetus within its designated time frame in the human life cycle, doesn't make it not human or not a baby.

    But I guess you knew this already right?

    Try something harder, that was a softball.
    so... a fetus is 'no different than' an adult?

    Now THAT'S a new spin on the old tired argument!

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Since when was a fetus, other then a baby? You do realize, the term "fetus" is just a term given to a developing baby, that is no different then newborn, toddler, adolescent, adult right?
    No, it's not.

    A fetus is a fetus.

    Calling the baby a fetus within its designated time frame in the human life cycle, doesn't make it not human or not a baby.
    It's a fetus. Not a baby. Or a newborn, toddler, adolescent, or adult. A fetus.

    Calling it anything else is nothing more than a lame circular argument, or the fallacy of composition.
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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    so... a fetus is 'no different than' an adult?
    No, that is not what I said. I said the term, is no different in the sense of describing the human life cycle.

    Do you know what the different stages are within the human life cycle? Fetus and adult are 2 of them. But at no point does calling a baby a "fetus" make it anything less then a baby or a human being.

    Now THAT'S a new spin on the old tired argument!
    Its not spin. You just didn't understand what I was saying.

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Its simple, the pro-death crowd knows, that a woman who sees her baby in an ultrasound, is less likely to abort her baby.
    ROFL

    Anywho, this has nothing to do with the mother changing her mind or not. That is entirely irrelevant. For the last time, it has to do with the government forcing a medical procedure on a woman.

    Of course, we can just keep hoping Planned Parenthood will tell the truth to the women who go into their death clinics, which we know to not be the case.
    Well, except for the fact that they DO. It was actually a PP clinic that required I have an ultrasound prior to my abortion.

    Want to try again?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    This "procedure", involves the well being of another individual life, that is on the verge of being killed simply b/c the mother doesn't want to deal with her own actions in life.
    The mother IS dealing with her actions and consequences of them. Hence the abortion.

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    Re: Judge stops Oklahoma abortion law

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    See you in court.
    What, here is former NARAL President saying as much:

    Why Young Voters Are Lukewarm on Abortion Rights - Newsweek.com

    "...Certainly, the anti-abortion movement helped fuel this shift in the attitudes of the young by reframing the abortion debate around the fetus rather than the pregnant woman. Millennials also came of age as ultrasounds provided increasingly clear pictures of fetal development. "The technology has clearly helped to define how people think about a fetus as a full, breathing human being," admits former NARAL president Kate Michelman. "The other side has been able to use the technology to its own end." Thirty-eight states now consider it a separate crime to kill a fetus in an act of aggression against a pregnant woman, and just last week Nebraska banned abortions after 20 weeks because of the possibility that the fetus could feel pain..."
    Her words, not mine. They know the score when it comes to women seeing an ultrasound vs being kept in the dark.

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