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    Re: American Who Recently Visited Pakistan Eyed in Times Square Bomb Plot



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    Re: American Who Recently Visited Pakistan Eyed in Times Square Bomb Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Well, we were surprised on 911.
    Which is sad in its own right. 1993 WTC bombing, the Khobar Towers, the Embassy bombings, the USS Cole. We SHOULDN'T have been surprised.

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    Re: American Who Recently Visited Pakistan Eyed in Times Square Bomb Plot

    So... an intersting question is how exactly they were able to tie Shahzad to a disposable cell phone. Bush/Obama "warrantless wiretapping"?

    I know if I were running such a program, I'd be keeping notes on anyone using a disposable cell phone to call Pakistan.
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    Re: American Who Recently Visited Pakistan Eyed in Times Square Bomb Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    So... an intersting question is how exactly they were able to tie Shahzad to a disposable cell phone. Bush/Obama "warrantless wiretapping"?
    This comment makes me wonder if you know what the latter words mean.

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    Re: American Who Recently Visited Pakistan Eyed in Times Square Bomb Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I said you ignored the obvious when it came to that attack.

    There are others but I don't want to be found guilty of child abuse so I'll stop.

    If you would like to further embarrass yourself Catz, please let me know
    What was it that you believe I ignored, Tex?

    I don't believe that the Fort Hood attack qualifies as "terrorism." What is the definition of terrorism?

    It's politically motivated attacks on civilians with the goal of creating terror and shifting policy.

    Was the attack on Fort Hood an attack on civilians?

    I really find it humorous that you think I'm the stupid one here.

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    Re: I'm still not seeing where you've been consistent

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Maybe you just had a change of heart?

    05-02-10, 03:31 PM
    Catz Speculating


    05-02-10, 05:26 PM
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    Yep. I had a change of heart. Throwing out possible ideas is interesting as long as everyone understands that we're just brainstorming.

    Unfortunately, that isn't possible to do here because of the rabid partisans who will seize onto whatever explanation will make the other party look the worst.

    I forgot for a second that I wasn't amongst peers. Happens.
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    Re: I'm still not seeing where you've been consistent

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Yep. I had a change of heart. Throwing out possible ideas is interesting as long as everyone understands that we're just brainstorming.

    Unfortunately, that isn't possible to do here because of the rabid partisans who will seize onto whatever explanation will make the other party look the worst.

    I forgot for a second that I wasn't amongst peers. Happens.





    I must interject, when one the Greatness that is the Good Reverend is at large, you are among your betters.......
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: American Who Recently Visited Pakistan Eyed in Times Square Bomb Plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Second, the difference between the Tea Parties and groups like ALF or ELF is that ALF and ELF have a HISTORY of terrorist activity so its reasonable to possible look their way. The Tea Parties on the other hand do NOT have a history of terrorist activity. So again, your attempt to equate the Tea Partiers to those kind of movements is incorrect.
    In my opinion, a domestic teror attack is unlikely to come out of tea party circles. However, it is possible that fringe anti-government elements might attach themselves to the movement, or that whackadoo individuals might go off half-cocked and do something stupid.

    But, in those cases, the individuals involved should be defined as "anti-government" terrorists or "mentally ill perpetrator," not identified as representatives of the tea party movement. It needs to be clear that they represent a small fringe element, and they should not be used unfairly to tar the entire movement.

    Having said that, I think it's highly unlikely that the average tea partier is going to engage in domestic terror. EVER. They're disaffected politically, and trying to change the political system, but they are still invested in changing the system through peaceful means. Terrorists rarely try to work politically or have become so disenfrancised that they no longer believe in the system at all. That's WHY they turn to terror.

    Frankly, in my experience with ALF members in my community, one thing we could have done was to work with some of them to show them how to work WITHIN the political system and empower them in that realm, which might have defused their need to commit direct action. I wish I had.
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    Re: I'm still not seeing where you've been consistent

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I must interject, when one the Greatness that is the Good Reverend is at large, you are among your betters.......
    This is true. Sadly, most posters here are not at all equal to the Rev. Or Zyph, for that matter.
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    Re: I'm still not seeing where you've been consistent

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    LOL yikes. Damn you research!
    It doesn't take mad research skills when I linked to my own posts IN THIS THREAD and quoted them.

    Gosh, Taylor uncovered a HUGE CONTROVERSY.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 05-04-10 at 02:44 PM.

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