The FBI and INS already exist, so unlike homeland security, new agencies won't be needed. Further, just the threat of a massive per illegal fine would be enough to chill the hiring of them, sending most back out of the country voluntarily.
Enforcement costs money.
Where did I suggest "new federal laws"? Increasing penalties for already extant crimes is not an extension of legislation, its a confirmation of already existing law.
Are you under the impression that an amendment isn't a new federal law?
And stop with the infantile labeling, besides the fact that it is obvious that my views are FAR from liberal, it is only undermining your non-existent arguments by trying to personally insult, and that you are a moderator makes it even worse.
Your views
are liberal using the modern parlance. Which implies that a reinterpretation of certain clauses are used to usurp state's rights about issues and federalizes authority.
It is, without a doubt, a Hamiltonian big-government reinterpretation of the enumerated powers related to naturalization as wellas a reinterpretation of invasion specifically to suit a purpose not defined by the constitution.
It is very similar to Hamilton's re-envisionment of the general welfare clause. It was the attitude taken by Adams when he passed the Alien and Sedition acts.
How about upholding the forum rules? Or do mods get a pass?
If you feel that I am in violation of the rules, report the post. Just because you think "liberal" is an epitaph, doesn't mean it actually is an epitaph.
And just because you are in denial of your liberalism, doesn't mean I'm not at liberty to point out the liberalism inherent in your positions.
The country survived quite well for almost 200 years without massive illegal alien employment.
This is the single most ignorant, revisionist, delusional thing I've ever heard in my entire life.
I also find it hilarious that you are attacking a cross section of the US demographic for being "lazy and unproductive," who are the same people that the illegal aliens are displacing out of the jobs that they would be traditionally taking.
What prevents them form taking the jobs now?
If these lower-skilled jobs paid living wages - then the bottom sections of society would be able to find work that would make them more productive citizens. Yet you attack them because they cannot find work - because these jobs are all held by illegals, at wage levels unsustainable in the US - but if sent abroad, provide a splendid level of compensation for a 3rd-world country...
Illegal aliens both manage to
live off of those wages AND, as you've pointed out numerous times already, send quite a bit of it back to Mexico.
All while costing the taxpayers less than these same citizens whom you are defending.
Excuse me if I don't cry a river over the fact that these lazy citizens refuse to accept a lower wage in order to work. They are not above this.
See post above, there are very few instances in the Constitution that refer to what type of punishment can be interred on a crime outside of treason - does that mean that the federal government is unable to do punish any crimes committed?
Well then, I guess that reasoning should apply equally well to my arguments. I mean, you are in favor of passing an amendment retroactively revoking the citizenship of millions of Americans born after 1990.
How is that different form what I've proposed (except for the fact that mine specifically targets those who do not contribute and are a waste of taxmoney all around, while yours punishes children for the sins of their parents.)
I think you've reached maximum frustration and just run out of gas.
I've actually been very entertained by the way you contradict your own positions and say crazy things like "The country survived quite well for almost 200 years without massive illegal alien employment."
:lol:
And by solution, do you refer to your silly idea of mass deporting millions of US citizens you deem "unproductive"?
I don't deem them unproductive, the numbers do. My solution is purely economic.
Come up with a constitutionally legitimate, rational offering, and stop the insults, its unbecoming of a moderator, and is not making your points any stronger.
As I said before, if you feel I am violating a rule, report the post. If I have broken any rules, I'll be dealt with the same as anyone.
Do not take it upon yourself to play mod in thread.
