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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Look if they are illegals then they deserve to and need to go home. So if this flawed law has managed to get rid of illegals that is a good thing. As long as legall permanent residents and naturalized immigrants are not bothered then fine.

    if it illegals going by bye then I say good go and go quickkly and go in large numbers. It's that simple !!!
    If legal immigrants are bothered, that's their problem. Maybe they have something hide.
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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    To the tune of The Beverly Hillbillies theme.

    The Ballad Of Paco Gomez

    Come and listen to a story about 'ol Paco
    A poor eeleegal, that was in a bit if a hassle,
    He found one day while steal'in someone's yob,
    That the law man said you're doin somethi'in wrong.

    Break'in the Illegal immigration law that is
    You're now a criminal here
    In our great state of Arizona

    Well the first thing you know Paco's moved his ass,
    His 14 kids said "iss a too dangerous in dis plass man"
    Said "Mehiko is where I wanna be"
    So they loaded up the truck and moved to NYC.

    Bloomberg Hills that is.
    Friend of illegals.
    Health care, education and NY ID's for free.

    Well now it's time to leave the 'ol AZ.
    And move our ass to Bloomberg NYC.
    We ain't comm'in back to this locality
    Because we love Bloomberg's NY hospitality

    Dumb**** gringo ee is man. And Presidente toooo man. Now we're bring'in even more family man.

    We have not com'in back now, not to a stink'in Mehiko or Arizona maaaan... y'hear?

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Simple really.
    It would all be over in a few days- after they raided ie, the biggest 50 restaurants in LA, etc.
    I live in NYC and the cleaner across the street is ALL Mexican illegals.
    The Diner next to them.. the same.
    And so it goes.

    Nice to see what a real minimum wage would look like too. Probably more like $10 without the phony huge illegal pool, and before our college kids take what will then become decent jobs.
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    And don't forget the painters and construction workers, restaurant delivery bicyclists, chicken-factory employees, strawberry pickers, etc.

    These jobs will either have to start paying livable wages - or the jobs will vanish.

    While we're at it, lets put a 1,000-percent tax on Walmart to force it to end its practice of purchasing Chinese-made product.

    Prices will definitely rise over time - but so will wages, at long last. Employers will have to actually pay what the market will bear, as opposed to simply just importing more illegal aliens to "take jobs no american would want."

    Of course they don't want them - who TF is going to do back-breaking labor for $5/hour, when the cushy banker jobs in suits and in air-conditioned offices pay 10 times more? The reality is that the 2 should be reversed, where the hard-to-fill, more strenuous jobs pay more than the cushy office jobs, that's the way a market economy is supposed to work.

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's always been a load of crap.
    I'm pretty liberal on immigration but when it comes to guest worker programs and things of that nature I get steamed.

    This has been going on for so long that the prevailing wage for some of these industries has been dropped to minimum wage.
    Industries will exploit the guest worker programs to hell.

    I checked my states Department of Labor job board to find some part time work and the veggie/fruit picker pay has gone down.
    It used to be in the mid to upper $8, now it's at minimum wage.
    That is some real ass busting work.
    This is why I believe every avenue(significant wage increases and benefits increases,bringing in workers from other cities and states and etc) should be sought out first before a company is allowed to import workers. Migrant workers should not be used as a tool to subvert wages, nor should American workers have to compete with imported workers.
    But regardless of such it is still a lie by pro-illegals that farmers,construction companies can't find legal workers or that we need to relax the rules of migrant work visas.
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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by rogerredy View Post
    And don't forget the painters and construction workers, restaurant delivery bicyclists, chicken-factory employees, strawberry pickers, etc.
    Legal workers do those jobs in a lot of states.Its not like white people,black people and what ever else just suddenly became lazy or thought that such work was beneath them(as a lot of libs think.).

    These jobs will either have to start paying livable wages - or the jobs will vanish.
    Trying to run a business when you can not afford legal workers makes as much sense as buying a $300,000 dollar home when you are single and flip burgers at McDonalds.

    While we're at it, lets put a 1,000-percent tax on Walmart to force it to end its practice of purchasing Chinese-made product.
    I believe outsourcing should be discouraged and that tariffs should be increased enough to discourage outsourcing. I am not sure if a 1000% percent tax would be needed.


    Of course they don't want them - who TF is going to do back-breaking labor for $5/hour, when the cushy banker jobs in suits and in air-conditioned offices pay 10 times more?
    The reality is that the 2 should be reversed, where the hard-to-fill, more strenuous jobs pay more than the cushy office jobs, that's the way a market economy is supposed to work.
    I agree. Mostly because companies/business should have to offer competitive wages to attract legal U.S. workers. They should not be allowed to circumvent this by hire illegals or importing legal migrant workers. Supply and demand is a two way street.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Apparently the law is having its intended effect.

    Go Arizona! Hopefully more states will follow suit.

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I like the way CBS news calls them 'immigrants', not 'illegal immigrants'.
    True.

    And I don't get the feeling they are trying to 'immigrate' anyway. They're more like invaders than immigrants. They come here and want to tell US what to do, instead of blending in, following he proper procedures, and learning what it is to be American.

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by rogerredy View Post
    Of course they don't want them - who TF is going to do back-breaking labor for $5/hour, when the cushy banker jobs in suits and in air-conditioned offices pay 10 times more? The reality is that the 2 should be reversed, where the hard-to-fill, more strenuous jobs pay more than the cushy office jobs, that's the way a market economy is supposed to work.
    who TF is going to do back-breaking labor for $5/hour, when welfare with tax credits pays more than that and you don't have to get off you butt?

    I think it more accurate.

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    I like the way CBS news calls them 'immigrants', not 'illegal immigrants'. Then they proceed to share the story of a family with 10, yes 10, children (all American citizens, naturally). They tug at our heart strings. Who could not sympathize with this honorable family?

    They are currently unemployed.Sooooo, how are they supporting these 10 children that they so happily had? How much U.S. taxpayer money has gone to assist them in raising them? How many American middle class citizens deferred childbearing in order to pay the taxes to support this illegal immigrant family, that lives hand to mouth, never worrying about having another child?

    Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law - CBS Evening News - CBS News
    this is unfortunate. i would prefer to see an amnesty of some sort for EMPLOYED illegals.

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    I do wonder why people even consider them invaders seriously they are immigrants even thought they didn't do it properly. You have to live in the states for 5 years, before you can get a application for US citizenship. For any more information Immigration Direct

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