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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by rogerredy View Post
    Simple, its the basic rules of economics: the massive influx of illegals has driven the salaries of these positions down to where it is not economically viable for what is known as the working poor to be able to perform these jobs, and still eke out a living for their families.

    At one time, the salaries were relatively higher to the rest of full-time work, so that one could accept working at a retailer like Home Depot FT and survive - but as in the case of construction, etc., the compensation of many fields have been driven so low as to make them completely unacceptable.

    To an illegal, however, whose family still resides in Latin America with a far lower cost of living, the funds remitted out of the US are substantial.
    You guys have no idea what you are talking about.

    Try and hire a few of these guys doing day labor.

    They will not work for under $15.00 per hour.

    Please pay me $15.00 per hour with no taxes to pay.

    I will take it.

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Oh I don't mindresponding. Pardon the typng. Tough going from an iPhone. Ok first. YOUR idea is to go after employers for hiring those people ilegally. Yep. That will work. Truly. But then once they do and once those day labor opportunities dry up they will HAVE to be hired legally. Wages will have to be fair. Taxes will have to be paid. And a new norm wil be established. Of course people aren't rushing to fill those day labor jobs today. Lots of reasons for that. One of those reasons is social structure we have created encourages eople to NOT work. That has to change. Until I does you have to balance th same phenomenon we see in Michigan. Why take a temp job when you get the same or more for NOT working.

    Look you will never hear from me those here illegally are lazy or don't want to work. You probably HAVE heard me say if I could Id keep all 20-30 million illegals and send Mexico 20-30 milion of he crippled and dependent pets the leftists have created.

    The illegal employee situation HAS to change. And it's not going to changovernight. Even in Arizona. And even in the even of passage of a law that hasn't even goneinto effect yet.

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by SKYPE View Post
    well if you want o talk about legality then why dont you ask a native american if they ever gave YOU permission to be here?
    well there ARE a few salient points. One the natives didn't have a country or rules and immigration laws. Two those natives practced conquest as well often warring with other tribes and when victorious enslaving their conquered foes. And Third...name a country that HASNT been formed through conquest, INCLUDING Mexico

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Considering that most American families immigrated from someplace else in their history, they really should stop b*tching about immigrants. And, as for taking tax money, everybody in the US is. ie they are enjoying the roads and other public services. All that money being spend, and the indians have not yet been adequately compensated for what those immigrants did to their way of life. Nothing would make up for destroying their way of life, but a significant financial gesture would be a gesture at lease.

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    Considering that most American families immigrated from someplace else in their history, they really should stop b*tching about immigrants. And, as for taking tax money, everybody in the US is. ie they are enjoying the roads and other public services. All that money being spend, and the indians have not yet been adequately compensated for what those immigrants did to their way of life. Nothing would make up for destroying their way of life, but a significant financial gesture would be a gesture at lease.
    Ugh, is this a stupid post, complete failure...

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Either go through the process of becoming legally allowed to live and work in America or stay the hell out. It's that simple. Arizona's law needs to be extended to the rest of the US and make all illegals leave.
    Last edited by bryann380; 05-18-10 at 04:44 PM.
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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by rogerredy View Post
    Ugh, is this a stupid post, complete failure...
    This comment isnt exactly impressive either...

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    Re: Immigrant Families Leave Arizona, Fearing Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    Considering that most American families immigrated from someplace else in their history, they really should stop b*tching about immigrants. And, as for taking tax money, everybody in the US is. ie they are enjoying the roads and other public services. All that money being spend, and the indians have not yet been adequately compensated for what those immigrants did to their way of life. Nothing would make up for destroying their way of life, but a significant financial gesture would be a gesture at lease.
    - There is a difference in immigrents who come in legally and those that come in illegally. Your point seems to consider the two the same. IMO, they are not.
    - As far as Indians not be compensated, imo, is a poor point in discussing the illegal issue in Arizona. One. Prove to me that native americans did not take land from other native americans through force. Two, IMO, humans have taken land from others throughout history. May not make it right, but that is what happend in the past and now. Three, I do not support the idea that I am responsible for what someone did 100-200 years ago. History is what it is.
    Last - Why do people forget that the illegals broke our law in coming in without permission? I really don't care the reason they did it. Try living in a place where over 1000 illegals enter every day. If the illegals move on or go home, in the end will be less impact on the State.
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