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Schwarzenegger withdraws support for offshore drilling

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Excerpted from “Schwarzenegger withdraws support for offshore drilling” By Marisa Lagos, Chronicle Sacramento Bureau, San Francisco Chronicle, Monday, May 3, 2010
[SIZE="+2"]G[/SIZE]ov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today withdrew his support for a plan he championed to allow new offshore oil drilling off Santa Barbara County, citing the disastrous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Schwarzenegger, whose administration as recently as Friday defended the proposed Tranquillon Ridge offshore drilling project, said images of the spill in the Gulf changed his mind. …

“As a member of the State Lands Commission who voted against the project last year, I am saddened that it took a tragic and massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico to remind us how important it is that we continue to protect California's shores and our multi-billion dollar coastal and port economies.” — State Controller John Chiang, who sits on the Lands Commission

California pacific coast: 40 years without a new oil lease and counting.
 
There a bunch of people in Louisiana who are no longer thrilled about offshore drilling either. Funny how that works.
 
I do not blame him it would be trying to get support to build another nuclear power plant right after the Chernobyl disaster.Grant it oil is probably easier to clean up a **** load of oil, but the fears of the enviro-wackos came true regarding off shore oil drilling and this wasn't some oil rig ran by some ****hole communist regime.
 
I agree jamesrage it like supporting something after a big disaster hit. I mean seriously that would be political suicide in my mind. I just doubt we will have many off shore drilling movements any time soon after what happen in Louisiana. In my opinion it is political suicide to do something like that.
 
I agree jamesrage it like supporting something after a big disaster hit. I mean seriously that would be political suicide in my mind. I just doubt we will have many off shore drilling movements any time soon after what happen in Louisiana. In my opinion it is political suicide to do something like that.

It's because the opponents only need to play a single video showing the disaster and ask, "Is having gas 5 cents a gallon cheaper worth the cost?". Debate over. No drilling in my backyard. Thanks. I'll pay more for oil. No sweat.
 
It's because the opponents only need to play a single video showing the disaster and ask, "Is having gas 5 cents a gallon cheaper worth the cost?". Debate over. No drilling in my backyard. Thanks. I'll pay more for oil. No sweat.

This is the truth of the matter.
 
It's because the opponents only need to play a single video showing the disaster and ask, "Is having gas 5 cents a gallon cheaper worth the cost?". Debate over. No drilling in my backyard. Thanks. I'll pay more for oil. No sweat.

Well, get ready for $4 gas at a store near you soon.
 
It's because the opponents only need to play a single video showing the disaster and ask, "Is having gas 5 cents a gallon cheaper worth the cost?". Debate over. No drilling in my backyard. Thanks. I'll pay more for oil. No sweat.

What this boils down to is what it has always boiled down to. A lot of people want drilling, refineries, and everything that goes along with it. They just don't want it in their own back yards. As long as it is in someone else's, they are cool with it. But is drilling really all that dangerous? In comparison to sending our money out to terrorist regimes in the Middle East, drilling may be a less dangerous option.
 
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Schwarzenegger is a Kennedy. He hates America and the very thought of American energy independence gives him the leaping heebie-jeebies, and the though that California might address it's foolish budget shortfalls by drilling for black gold is almost as scary to him as cutting the crazy spending.

The little mishap in the Gulf was caused by the failure to use proper back-up well shut-offs, and it's not sane to halt new drilling because old drilling failed to use established safety equipment.

Not to mention that the Messiah, Schwarzie's pal in Washington, already took the California coast off the "drill here" list because there's known to be plenty of oil off the shore of California. The Messiah doesn't want the US to stop funding his terrorist buddies in the Middle East by drilling our own oil instead.
 
It's because the opponents only need to play a single video showing the disaster and ask, "Is having gas 5 cents a gallon cheaper worth the cost?". Debate over. No drilling in my backyard. Thanks. I'll pay more for oil. No sweat.


I'll vote "yes". Drill here, drill now, and I'll happily sail my boat around the new rigs, just like I do now with the old platforms off Seal Beach.
 
Schwarzenegger is a Kennedy. He hates America and the very thought of American energy independence gives him the leaping heebie-jeebies, and the though that California might address it's foolish budget shortfalls by drilling for black gold is almost as scary to him as cutting the crazy spending.

The little mishap in the Gulf was caused by the failure to use proper back-up well shut-offs, and it's not sane to halt new drilling because old drilling failed to use established safety equipment.

Not to mention that the Messiah, Schwarzie's pal in Washington, already took the California coast off the "drill here" list because there's known to be plenty of oil off the shore of California. The Messiah doesn't want the US to stop funding his terrorist buddies in the Middle East by drilling our own oil instead.

Oh come on. Arnold love America just as much as the rest of us do, and your little rhetorical rant here belies the fact that, when Arnold was running for office, Republicans couldn't get enough of him, even turning their backs on a couple of legitimate Conservatives in order to support him so that he could defeat Davis. You guys got what you wanted, and reaped what you sewed. Please spare me the crocodile tears.
 
Oh come on. Arnold love America just as much as the rest of us do,

People that love America want her to get off her dead ass and stop suporting terrorists and socialists and dictatorships by buying their oil. The best way to do this is by using our own damn oil.

One can't claim to love the country and insist on positions that hold her prostrate before her enemies.


and your little rhetorical rant here belies the fact that, when Arnold was running for office, Republicans couldn't get enough of him,

Really?

And 20% of California voters supported Tom McClintock, American. It's not as if ALL Californians are stupid, it's just that there are so MANY stupid Californians that the candidates with American values can't get elected.

YOU aren't seriously suggesting that Mr. Arnold Kennedy got elected on anything BUT star-power and name recognition, are you?

Perhaps you don't recall the recall election that saddled us with Arnie. He got a plurality of the votes, not a majority, and that was out of sheer terror that one of the Mexican Mafia was going to be elected governor. That decision was essentially correct.

Regardless, the foolishness of the majority of California voters is legendary. Who else could elect a guy named "Moonbeam"? Well, actually, he earned that name, but Californians keep voting for his dumb ass.

even turning their backs on a couple of legitimate Conservatives in order to support him so that he could defeat Davis.

If you knew about the election, you'd realize that it wasn't about defeating Davis, that was a separate vote. It was about keeping the Mexican Mafioso out of the governor's mansion.


You guys got what you wanted, and reaped what you sewed. Please spare me the crocodile tears.

I did?

I wanted an American.

Everytime I vote, I want an American to win. I haven't voted for a candidate that's achieved office since Reagan, because real Americans are hard to find.
 
Well, get ready for $4 gas at a store near you soon.

Here's a newsflash for you. That will happen no matter what we do. Just timing is all. $10 gas is going to happen, too. The sooner the better.
 
What this boils down to is what it has always boiled down to. A lot of people want drilling, refineries, and everything that goes along with it. They just don't want it in their own back yards. As long as it is in someone else's, they are cool with it. But is drilling really all that dangerous? In comparison to sending our money out to terrorist regimes in the Middle East, drilling may be a less dangerous option.

I don't disagree. I don't want it here (Georgia). The best solution? Just need and use less oil. Do you REALLY need an SUV?
 
I'll vote "yes". Drill here, drill now, and I'll happily sail my boat around the new rigs, just like I do now with the old platforms off Seal Beach.

Good luck!
 
I don't disagree. I don't want it here (Georgia). The best solution? Just need and use less oil. Do you REALLY need an SUV?

Not driving an SUV doesn't help. With population growth, there still will be a growing need for oil that effects far more than just driving your vehicle. Prices of everything will go up with an increase of oil prices, since it is used to transport food, make fertilizer, make everything that is plastic, asphalt roads, roofing, tires, etc, etc. Oil touches every industry, every technology, every business, every home, and each and every one of us in one vital way or another, every single day.
 
Not driving an SUV doesn't help. With population growth, there still will be a growing need for oil that effects far more than just driving your vehicle. Prices of everything will go up with an increase of oil prices, since it is used to transport food, make fertilizer, make everything that is plastic, asphalt roads, roofing, tires, etc, etc. Oil touches every industry, every technology, every business, every home, and each and every one of us in one vital way or another, every single day.

But not driving an SUV will reduce demand, keeping prices low. Or more accurately, not driving millions of SUVs. The point is that there is room for eliminating waste.
 
Schwarzenegger is a Kennedy.


Lol What does that have to do with anything? So the Kennedy's hate America, I guess Kennedy hated America so god damn much that they moved here, and settled here in the first place :roll: I love America, and I don't want off shore drilling off the gulf coast..... The Kennedy's love America just as much as other people do. Off Shore drilling is not going to be happening anytime soon, so get over it.
 
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I don't disagree. I don't want it here (Georgia). The best solution? Just need and use less oil. Do you REALLY need an SUV?

I drive a Chevy Cavalier. It gets 32 miles to the gallon. :wink:
 
What this boils down to is what it has always boiled down to. A lot of people want drilling, refineries, and everything that goes along with it. They just don't want it in their own back yards. As long as it is in someone else's, they are cool with it. But is drilling really all that dangerous? In comparison to sending our money out to terrorist regimes in the Middle East, drilling may be a less dangerous option.

You have really articulated something here that I fully agree with. One thing that really makes me crazy about my fellow liberals is that they really don't get that we face trade-offs. We can't have it all.

Alot of liberals want energy independence. I am one of them, and it is one of my top priorities. When I decided to get behind oil drilling, it was with the full knowledge that someday, somewhere there would be a spill. We just can't do it right 100% of the time with this stuff, since there are just too many variables.

Well, the spill came sooner rather than later, unfortunately.

Now, we'll be that much more entrenched into having to defend the Middle East for the next 50 years from increasingly greedy powers. Mark my words, eventually they will come for the oil. The less we drill, here, the more we'll have to defend there.
 
Lol What does that have to do with anything? So the Kennedy's hate America, I guess Kennedy hated America so god damn much that they moved here, and settled here in the first place :roll: I love America, and I don't want off shore drilling off the gulf coast..... The Kennedy's love America just as much as other people do. Off Shore drilling is not going to be happening anytime soon, so get over it.

Yup, plans for any future rigs, especially off the east coast, are now in the outhouse with the Sears catalog.
 
But not driving an SUV will reduce demand, keeping prices low. Or more accurately, not driving millions of SUVs. The point is that there is room for eliminating waste.

The difference in the MPG of a typical SUV versus some sedan is not enough to make up for the growing demand for oil that is occurring worldwide just from population growth and more countries increasing their standard of living and level of consumption. So, everyone abandoning SUVs would make an insignificant dent in the huge oil demand problem.

Maybe it would be more effective to stop buying food at the store that is trucked in thousands of miles to get there. And stop using fertilizers and pesticides (oil required). Or stop buying things made of plastic (as if that were possible). And we should stop making asphalt roads, since they are made with oil. The list goes on and on.
 
To me this is just our immediete consumption society and live in the moment mentallity.

Does the oil spill suck? Yes. It is a horrible tragedy? Yes. Is it something that regularly occurs on a every 5 year basis? No.

The long term benefits of allowing off shore drilling both for our economy and our security far outweigh the negatives from what is essentially a rather isolated occurance. Like someone referenced earlier, if there was not hysterical over reaction and present-only focused people after Chernobyl perhaps we would've taken it for what it was, improved how things ran a bit, and then continued to roll out Nuclear Energy to a point where we'd likely be far better off energy wise. However we panic over a one off odd incident and are unable to see the forest through the trees.

Ultimately I can't really blame or be surprised by Arnold though. He's being a politician and simply playing off that fact of human nature.
 
You have really articulated something here that I fully agree with. One thing that really makes me crazy about my fellow liberals is that they really don't get that we face trade-offs. We can't have it all.

True. But it's not just a liberal thing. Lots of people of all political stripes want low energy prices but big fat SUVs they can drive 100 miles to work each day from their huge, expensive-to-heat and cool houses, for instance.

Or they want full government services but low taxes.
 
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