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    COPS: Times Square Car Bomber Got the Wrong Fertilizer

    The would-be car-bomber who left an SUV loaded with propane and gas cans, fireworks and timing devices on a Times Square street also had more than 100 pounds of fertilizer, but not the kind that would explode, police said today.

    Instead of ammonium nitrate, the kind of fertilizer used by Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, the person who abandoned the van on the crowded New York City street had a metal gun locker full of a harmless fertilizer, New York City Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said.
    But guess what else? Police are saying that the main suspect is not connected to the Taliban at all, but a white guy, probably a homegrown terrorist.
    Police are looking for white male in his 40s who was seen leaving the area near the SUV and shedding a dark shirt, revealing a red shirt underneath, about a half block from where survellance cameras saw the vehicle entering Times Square at about 6:28 p.m. Saturday, NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly said.
    When this story first broke, I noticed that something was a little off, especially when it appeared that this bombing attempt was pretty amateurish. I said then to look for homegrown terrorists. Looks like I was right. Whoever attempted to set this one off is a Timothy McVeigh wannabe.

    Like I have said throughout the years, I believe the most dangerous terrorists to the US are going to be the homegrown ones that you might find in the KKK, at Stormfront, or within any number of hate groups. For them, knowing that there are people in the Mideast who hate us, and also knowing that many in the US hate Middle Easterners, they believe that they can bring their hatred for others to a head by running a false flag operation, then demand that their hateful agendas be adopted.

    Like the old saying goes, keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer. That shouldn't be too hard, since some of our enemies are right here in our own back yard.

    Article is here.
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    Re: COPS: Times Square Car Bomber Got the Wrong Fertilizer

    Was it Miracle Gro fertilizer?

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    Re: COPS: Times Square Car Bomber Got the Wrong Fertilizer

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Was it Miracle Gro fertilizer?
    Nope, Plop plop fiz fiz !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    When this story first broke, I noticed that something was a little off, especially when it appeared that this bombing attempt was pretty amateurish. I said then to look for homegrown terrorists.
    Like I have said throughout the years, I believe the most dangerous terrorists to the US are going to be the homegrown ones that you might find in the KKK, at Stormfront, or within any number of hate groups.
    Wait...so it was so amateurish and poorly done, to the point that the guys stupidity in knowing what to do made it so that it wasn't even really a bomb, which instantly made you think homegrown because they tend to be sloppy and dumb...

    and yet THAT'S what you think is the most dangerous?

    The guys able to slap together a bumbling backyard bomb with little real planning and more luck than skill are in your mind more dangerous than the ones with a significant financial backing, a history of well planned and well thought out attacks, and who generally has better access to the stuff?

    Your two comments when reading them almost one after the other just confused me.

    I agree, home grown terrorists are definitely problematic and something to watch for, but frankly I think the likelihood of a significantly sized attack to be far more on the side of muslim exteremists at the moment than anti-government radicals, christian fanatics, eco-terrorists, anti-war people, or white supremists. While I think the latter may offer a greater frequency of attacks I believe the likely damage potential and true scale of it is not on that side.

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    Re: COPS: Times Square Car Bomber Got the Wrong Fertilizer

    Local station uses ABC radio just reported that the SUV was bought for a few hundred dollors at a Connecticut junk yard and the junk yard owner says that he sold it to an Arabic or Hispanic looking man.

    So is this a potential Muslim attack or the Hispanic Libertation Front ? Not sure e if there is a HLF but who hnows, could be,maybe just one member.
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    Re: COPS: Times Square Car Bomber Got the Wrong Fertilizer

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Wait...so it was so amateurish and poorly done, to the point that the guys stupidity in knowing what to do made it so that it wasn't even really a bomb, which instantly made you think homegrown because they tend to be sloppy and dumb...
    Well.. there's that and the fact that he's white - and therefore most likely a member of the KKK or stormfront.

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    Wait, aren't we supposed to not be racial profiling. Don't people jump in a thread screaming if someone see's a middle eastern name or someone described as middle eastern and immedietely suggests its likely islamic terrorism. Yet they're looking into a white guy so we're instantly ignoring islamic terrorism and immiedetely suggesting stormfront or KKK type activity? Where's the same people that come out each and every time to defend the notion of suggesting its Islamic terrorism coming to the defense of Stormfront now?

    As I've said in every other case similar to this, until we actually get some real information I'm with holding my judgement of what it likely is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Well.. there's that and the fact that he's white - and therefore most likely a member of the KKK or stormfront.
    What about Jihad Jane?

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    Re: COPS: Times Square Car Bomber Got the Wrong Fertilizer

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Local station uses ABC radio just reported that the SUV was bought for a few hundred dollors at a Connecticut junk yard and the junk yard owner says that he sold it to an Arabic or Hispanic looking man.

    So is this a potential Muslim attack or the Hispanic Libertation Front ? Not sure e if there is a HLF but who hnows, could be,maybe just one member.
    Here's a link to validate your post:

    The Nissan Pathfinder that carried a bomb into New York's Times Square was sold to an "Arabic or Latino looking" man in his 20s or 30s last month in Connecticut, authorities say the vehicle's previous owners told them.
    Times Square Bomb: U.S. Officials Finding Foreign Links to New York Bomb Plot - ABC News

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    Re: COPS: Times Square Car Bomber Got the Wrong Fertilizer

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Wait...so it was so amateurish and poorly done, to the point that the guys stupidity in knowing what to do made it so that it wasn't even really a bomb, which instantly made you think homegrown because they tend to be sloppy and dumb...

    and yet THAT'S what you think is the most dangerous?

    The guys able to slap together a bumbling backyard bomb with little real planning and more luck than skill are in your mind more dangerous than the ones with a significant financial backing, a history of well planned and well thought out attacks, and who generally has better access to the stuff?

    Your two comments when reading them almost one after the other just confused me.

    I agree, home grown terrorists are definitely problematic and something to watch for, but frankly I think the likelihood of a significantly sized attack to be far more on the side of muslim exteremists at the moment than anti-government radicals, christian fanatics, eco-terrorists, anti-war people, or white supremists. While I think the latter may offer a greater frequency of attacks I believe the likely damage potential and true scale of it is not on that side.
    You took the words outta my mouth, er off my keyboard! Homegrown terrorist in the USA, to judge by history, are hardly the most dangerous terrorist to the US.

    Also, the police are not saying the bomber or bombers are not connected to the Taliban, they have made no such statement. Period. The police are however looking for a white male that was seen on video changing his shirt near the SUV. Danny would do well to pay closer attention to what the police are saying. At this time we have no idea if the person seen changing his shirt had anything to do with the SUV. Plus the news is reporting right now that the SUV was sold to an Arabic or Latino looking make. IMO it is way to early to tell what really happened.

    But it does seem that whomever was behind this was incompetent, thank God.
    Last edited by Sir Loin; 05-03-10 at 04:33 PM.

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