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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    No. I'm judging you on what you said. You don't like that though, do you?



    How do you know I'm not?



    Are you actually equating those things with having your posts debunked on an internet forum? Oh, the soul-crushing agony of persecution by logic.





    No. He was silenced because he broke the law IN ENGLAND. I don't personally support those laws, no matter how wrong-headed and stupid I believe the preacher (and those like him) to be.



    Spare me the love of Jesus. The message he was sharing was one of hate and intolerance towards gay people in the guise of his religious views...views that I personally consider archaic, backward ass, and stupid.

    The law is stupid. So was his message. Do not mistake my defending his right to speak with me condoning his message. His (and your) messages about gays and lesbians are abhorrent, repugnant, and socially retarded. I don't care that they're biblical, the Bible is an archaic document that belongs in the dungheap. We'd be far better off as a society without these silly archaic prejudices.

    Nonetheless, the U.S. is a better system than the British system because people have unrestricted freedom even to put out viewpoints that I find personally disgusting.
    Yep, another unbeliever.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    So you believe the anal cavity is a sexual orifice rather than the orifice for expelling waste?
    I would like to nominate this as the most over the top bit of stupidity of the month. Not only does it have nothing to do with anything, but he actually thinks he is making a point, instead of just being hysterical.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Yep, another unbeliever.
    You know what's nice about non-believers? We're logical, and we defend our arguments logically. Additionally, no matter how stupid and offensive I find your beliefs, I still would fight to the death to protect your right to have them.

    Would you extend the same tolerance to me?

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    In my view, I think the Police Officer acted unreasonably in arresting the man on this offence. The appropriate response would have been to advise the man against making such pronouncements loudly in a public place.

    The Public Order Act exists for very good reasons, but preventing people from expressing their religious views is not one of them. I think this is a case of overzealousness on the part of a police officer - it happens in every society.

    But what we do not know, are the circumstances surrounding the arrest. How reasonable and/or cooperative was the 'preacher'? Remember, he had just been delivering a sermon from the top of a step ladder, in a shopping mall, and presumably made the remark that homosexuality was against the word of God, from that vantage point. This is qualitatively different from a quiet conversation between two private individuals.

    Remember also, that the man delivered a twenty minute sermon to the police officer who was charging him. Precisely what a completely sane individual would do under those circumstances? So I think there is a lot more than has been reported to this incident.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    As I suspected, you prefer the conservative slogan "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO *plugs ears*"

    Difference of opinion I guess!
    Did you ever develop a sense of humor? Ever?

    On topic though...this is ridiculous and I am glad we aren't at this point in the US. First of all, reciting a passage from a book is not hate speech. I don't care if it is the Bible...reciting Corinthians is no more homophobic than reading a "nigger" passages from Huck Fin are racist.

    Secondly, freedom of religious expression trumps anyone's right to not be offended. In fact, there's no right to not be offended. Religious expression is a fundamental human right.

    It's sad to hear about what's going on in England.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Did you ever develop a sense of humor? Ever?

    On topic though...this is ridiculous and I am glad we aren't at this point in the US. First of all, reciting a passage from a book is not hate speech. I don't care if it is the Bible...reciting Corinthians is no more homophobic than reading a "nigger" passages from Huck Fin are racist.

    Secondly, freedom of religious expression trumps anyone's right to not be offended. In fact, there's no right to not be offended. Religious expression is a fundamental human right.

    It's sad to hear about what's going on in England.
    It's funny seeing you of all people talk about hate speech.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It's funny seeing you of all people talk about hate speech.
    What would be really funny is seeing you make a comment that is on point.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It's funny seeing you of all people talk about hate speech.
    Do you think you could make a logical argument today, and not an ad hominem?

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Are you trying to indicate that only gays are drawn to the sweet chocolate tunnel? A lot of gay men don't even have anal sex. They rely on oral sex and manual stimulation for sexual contact.

    And, since the mouth is an orifice for eating food, rather than sexual contact, oral sex would be out for you, as well, right? I mean, we'd want to be consistent, right?
    Is that so? Do you have any statistics on that?

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    So you believe the anal cavity is a sexual orifice rather than the orifice for expelling waste?
    You ever kiss someone? Engage in oral sex?

    Yeah, thought so.

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