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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    I think we get it twisted when we combine the right to say whatever you want with the viability of the content of the message or dialog plus the venue inwhich we use to convey that message or exchange dialog.

    In other words, was what this preacher said wrong? No.

    Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them [men] have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    Similar wording is found in 1 Corinthines 6 -

    9.Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived : neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
    10.Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

    So, what this preacher said according to the word of God is correct.

    Was where he said it wrong? According to the article he spoke in a public place which is not against the law.

    Did how he say it violate the law? According to the police community support officer, the preacher allegedly "made the remark in a voice loud enough to be overheard by others". What what exactly does that mean? Was it as the preacher said that he had finished giving his surmon when he spoke with a passer-by and perhaps others overheard his quite, but casual conversation? Is that the wrong that was committed?

    According to the article, "the Public Order Act, introduced in 1986 to tackle violent rioters and football hooligans, is being used to curb religious free speech." So, is it possible this preacher was being persecuted and this law is being used as a tool to shut him up?
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    This is in the UK right? I wonder what they do to Islamic clerics that preach death to gays and infidels... Oh wait, they give them special communities that are allowed to regulate and govern some aspects of the law Seriously, this is nothing but enforcing being "politically correct" and anti-Christian through fascism. The UK is simply becoming moronic.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I think we get it twisted when we combine the right to say whatever you want with the viability of the content of the message or dialog plus the venue inwhich we use to convey that message or exchange dialog.

    In other words, was what this preacher said wrong? No.
    This debate isn't about whether he was wrong. Nobody will ever agree on that.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Dale McAlpine was charged with causing “harassment, alarm or distress” after a homosexual police community support officer (PCSO) overheard him reciting a number of “sins” referred to in the Bible, including blasphemy, drunkenness and same sex relationships.

    The 42-year-old Baptist, who has preached Christianity in Wokington, Cumbria for years, said he did not mention homosexuality while delivering a sermon from the top of a stepladder, but admitted telling a passing shopper that he believed it went against the word of God.

    Police officers are alleging that he made the remark in a voice loud enough to be overheard by others and have charged him with using abusive or insulting language, contrary to the Public Order Act.


    Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin - Telegraph


    Wow. Welcome to politically correct fascism, can I take your order?
    The UK, of course, does not have a first Amendment, which protects just about ALL speech, even for douche bags like this guy. Even the Fred Phelpses of this world can spew all the hate they want to. It's great being an American.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I can't believe President Obama would allow such a thing! Then again, what else do you expect from a Muslim?
    I can't believe a hyperpartisan would post something like this without reading the context of the OP.

    Oh wait. Yeah I can.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Yeah, I sound like a tool.
    I guess my angst towards religion is really coming out, eh? I can't hide it or disguise it - it's there.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Technically the officer was in the wrong, but my sympathy for the preacher = zero. For years the religious right has repeatedly acted to deny gays equal rights, so when the law is used against a preacher for acting like the dickwad he's grown so comfortable being in this nation, I admit I get a small chuckle out of it.
    That's so cliche'.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post

    So, what this preacher said according to the word of God is correct.
    I would disagree...and I think people who eat shellfish and wear clothing made of two types of fiber might agree as well.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    So, what this preacher said according to the word of God is correct.
    The problem is that the word of gourd was made up a few thousand years ago by roaming sheep herders. So, people who use it to justify their deep-seated aversion to gays/lesbians, and think others should take it seriously as well, look rather ridiculous.

    No offense, but I don't need men who died 3,000 years ago to tell me what foods to eat, what clothing fibers to wear, and who to sleep with or how to raise my kids. But if you do, well, it takes all kinds.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them [men] have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
    So you follow everything in Leviticus?

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