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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Yes, but neither heterosexuality nor homosexuality are activities, they are simply drives inherent to our beings. You and I may well feel an attraction to a beautiful female, and the urge to act on that attraction. I expect a homosexual guy has an equivalent attraction to someone he sees as a beautiful male, and an urge to act on the attraction. Neither urge is inherently wrong or 'sinful'.
    But ACTING on said urges IS sinful.

    I'm not sure quite what point you made about homophobia, but true homophobia (a fear of homosexuals and homosexuality,) must logically stem from something which puts one's own sexuality and self concepts under threat.
    I actually wasn't trying to make any point on homophobia except that it is often used by liberals to paint conservatives who disagree with them on this subject.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The post bringing it up did NOT make this clear, and the situation we are talking about happened OUTSIDE the U.S. Some Americans need to realize that the entire world does NOT revolve around the United States. There is a worse "Middle Kingdom" complex there than there is in China.
    I agree with your sentiments on this matter in general, Ludahai. There is a regrettable tendency on the part of a number of Americans to speak of everything in the US context, and to disregard the fact that this is an international forum. I accept the fact that the majority of posters here are from the USA, but that does not negate the need to be region specific. It is both a matter of common sense, and common courtesy.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Except that the instance in the OP was clearly in the UK
    And the UK ****ed up. Infringed upon one of the most basic of all rights, that of religious expression. That's that.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And the UK ****ed up. Infringed upon one of the most basic of all rights, that of religious expression. That's that.
    Completely agreed -- at least based on the facts as we know them...
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    actually i disagree. I think it would lead to Church Revival; becoming more like unto and more accepting of the World has weakened us and made us less appealing.

    that is true. but like cupcakes and sitting on the couch; that which is easiest in the short term is most damaging in the long.
    I agree completely. The church has abdicated its role as salt/light.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And I was talking about where I live. Have a problem with that?
    We don't have a problem with it, but we don't particularly care what is happening in Taiwan. You're largely irrelevant to us.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Actually, the Church DOES speak about those other sins. Have you ever been to Mass and hear a priest's homily?
    Only rarely, I'm protestant. And no, those sins weren't addressed when I attended mass.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Except that the instance in the OP was clearly in the UK.
    We were not talking about the OP. I explained this, and you chose to get all butt hurt.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And I was talking about where I live. Have a problem with that?
    No, but Taiwan law has no bearing on what either of us were saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Another example of taking a statement out of context. Thanks for playing.
    Not really. It is a perfect example of what you said not applying in any way.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    "police community support officer" has a nice Orwellian ring to it.
    They couldn't just give him the title of "Police officer" no?

    I can't believe the dude got arrested for this. :

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    They couldn't just give him the title of "Police officer" no?

    I can't believe the dude got arrested for this. :
    No, they couldn't. The PCSO is not a police officer, but uniformed support, lacking many of the powers of a police officer. That's why the preacher was arrested by police officers and not the PCSO.
    In the UK, section five of the Public Order Act is more often applied to noisy drunks, swearing and shouting and causing a disturbance. The police will tolerate so much, but eventually will offer a warning to the effect that enough is enough, and the next occurrence will result in an arrest.
    It appears that this stage was reached with the preacher, and in the face of the warning, he chose to push his luck, safe in the knowledge that he could claim he was a martyr for his faith. The police called his bluff, and now a jury of his peers will decide the issue.
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