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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No, "homophobia" is an imaginary word that's applied to anyone that makes any statement a gay can construe as negative.

    A phobia is a recognized psychological condition, such as agoraphobia, claustrophobia, acrophobia, triskadekephobia, etc.

    Calling every anti-gay comment "homophobic" is like calling a person who won't stand on the very edge of cliff "acrophobic", even perfectly sensible people won't do that.
    Bigot will do.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot

    bigot
    Main Entry: big·ot
    Pronunciation: \ˈbi-gət\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot
    Date: 1660

    : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    And yes, I know Paul (in the NT) said that it's a sin, but that's not my point. The point is that Christianity today has conformed to changing times in a lot of ways. So why do they make such a big deal out of being gay?
    Because homosexuality is a sin in Christianity. That's what their belief system dictates. It's sex outside of marriage, first of all, and Paul DID say it was a sin, which would be a confirmation of Leviticus.

    I'm not saying I agree with that, as I'm an agnostic, but there is no way around what their belief system dictates.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    Because homosexuality is a sin in Christianity. That's what their belief system dictates. It's sex outside of marriage, first of all, and Paul DID say it was a sin, which would be a confirmation of Leviticus.

    I'm not saying I agree with that, as I'm an agnostic, but there is no way around what their belief system dictates.
    Not all Christians believe that.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Not all Christians believe that.
    If 'that' is indeed a tenet of Christiantiy, then those who do not 'believe it' are not Christians.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If 'that' is indeed a tenet of Christiantiy, then those who do not 'believe it' are not Christians.
    .... What makes some sins and 'abominations' from the old testament no longer applicable in the new testament?
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If 'that' is indeed a tenet of Christiantiy, then those who do not 'believe it' are not Christians.
    And there are people that would say that about the anti gay crowd, YAWN.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And there are people that would say that about the anti gay crowd, YAWN.
    So? How does this negate - or even address - what I said?

    Christianity is a set of beliefs and tenets. If you buy into them, you are a Christian, if you do not, you are not.

    This is especially the case if you're looking at specific sects of Christianity, like the Roman Catholic Church - if you do not conform to its tenets and teachings, then you are not a RC.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So? How does this negate - or even address - what I said?

    Christianity is a set of beliefs and tenets. If you buy into them, you are a Christian, if you do not, you are not.
    it applies because not every sect has the same beliefs.

    This is especially the case if you're looking at specific sects of Christianity, like the Roman Catholic Church - if you do not conform to its tenets and teachings, then you are not a RC.
    So join another church.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Not all Christians believe that.
    Whatever. I don't really care about the different sects of Christianity and what they believe. I'm just quoting the Bible and mainstream Christian beliefs.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    it applies because not every sect has the same beliefs.
    If the beliefs they have do not confrom to the tenets and teachings of Christianty, then they arent Christians - so, unless you're prepared to illustrate the Christian position on homosexuality, in full, then you cannot show that it does or does not apply.

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