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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You believe that homosexuals are an abomination in the eyes of God.

    True or false?

    By the way, your dancing is lovely.
    I answered your question (See post #237) and I believe I was quite clear in my views on the subject. So, let's try not to bait shall we?
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 05-04-10 at 09:23 PM.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    I would say homosexuality is a "sin of the flesh" just like being promiscuous, a drunk, an adulterer etc.

    Basically as the bible describes it when you give into "the pleasure of the flesh" you become more full of "jealousies, rages, conceit, lies, etc. etc." and society is worse for it.

    That doesn't mean anyone should be harassing and condemning gay people, in fact, that is more of a sin IMO than being gay.

    Is that really an arguable point? I see it as a "truth" aside from the bible personally, its more psychology than anything.
    And it is why I personally do not condemn homosexuals. If asked, I will share my point of view on the matter as I have done here (post #237), but I don't go around bashing gays and lesbians for living their choosen lifestyle anymore than I'd picket an abortion clinic or a crack house. It's not my place to judge these people. But if asked, I'd certainly try to encourage them to lead better, more productive lives. But no, contrary to what some here may believe of me concerning my religious faith, I don't go around bash gays and lesbians for being who they are.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I answered your question (See post #237) and I believe I was quite clear in my views on the subject. So, let's try not to bait shall we?
    It's not baiting to make you strip the sugarcoating off of the fact that you think that homosexuality is an abomination to God.

    Just own it.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    But sin simply means to violate what is right.

    Those who don't believe in God can also "sin against themselves" as the bible describes someone who knows what is right but makes the wrong choice.

    Sin is doing something you know is wrong, if you don't "know" homosexuality is a sin then you can't commit the sin. This is relativist of course, but that is how the bible talks about those who don't abide by biblical morality, and still describes the wrong behavior as "sin".

    Unfortunately in the modern world sin is only associated with a religious violation, rather than a moral violation general to all humans.

    edit: (well, maybe not unfortunate, as there are plenty of other words to demonstrate a wrong choice)
    Dear Single Cell:

    YOu don't have to teach me fundamental principles of Christianity. I was a Christian for over 30 years. I know what sin is.

    I still don't believe in the concept. Nor do I believe that sex outside of marriage (fornication) or being gay/lesbian is a moral violation.

    If you'd like, we can discuss it on the religion board.

    Thanks,

    Catz

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    Once again... and this is my opinion only. I believe it is a choice. Yes. I know that some say that people are born that way or a number of other varying opinions on the subject. I think the verdict is still out on that, but either way... In answer to your question, yes, I personally believe that it is a choice.
    Holding to bigoted beliefs is also a choice. I think people choose to adopt religious beliefs that reinforce their own prejudices.

    God really has nothing to do with it.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    It's not baiting to make you strip the sugarcoating off of the fact that you think that homosexuality is an abomination to God.

    Just own it.
    I'm not sugarcoating anything. You asked me a question; I answered it. In fact, I expanded on it.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm not sugarcoating anything. You asked me a question; I answered it. In fact, I expanded on it.
    Then why are you still so defensive?

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Wouldn't you be if someone mischaracterized you?

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Wouldn't you be if someone mischaracterized you?
    Heh. If only I had.

    It's funny how you have issues with having your actual beliefs written out plainly like...

    "I think homosexuality is an abomination in God's eyes."

    Why does it bother you so much to just say it plainly like that, without sixty pages of explanation about why you're not a bad person for feeling that way and how you really care about gays/lesbians and are sensitive to their needs, but they're really big sinners?

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    It's almost as if people are ashamed of being religious bigots nowadays.

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