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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Not even close. The actual definition is an irrational or unreasonable fear.

    Wiki goes FAR beyond fear.

    Homophobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards homosexuality and people identified or perceived as being homosexual. Definitions[1][2][3] refer variably to antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, and irrational fear.

    Its a classic liberal tactic to expand a definition of a negative word to apply it to anyone who doesn't agree with them and that's exactly what wiki is doing.
    I think you need to look up the definition of the word "or".

    "or discrimination against "

    "or antipathy"
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Sin...is sin....is sin...is sin. All are bad in God's eyes. Whether it be homosexuality, murder, stealing, coveting, whatever else you can think of. No one is bigger or worse than the other. According to the Bible (whether you agree with it, dont agree with it, dont care, whatever)... it states that homosexuality is an abomination to God. No one is telling anyone they have to believe that, it just is what it is. But all sin is. And it is always hate the sin not the sinner. I think homosexuality is a sin, that is my personal opinion and no one elses. However, having said that, I know quite a few gays and lesbians, some of whom I am friends with some I am not; but either way I dont hate them, I dont talk about them, I dont constantly push the bible in their faces to get them to see the error of their ways...they know where I stand on the issue, I know where they stand; doesnt mean we dont get along great. Doesnt mean that I dont think they are fantastic people. I just dont agree with their lifestyle and choose not to do that for myself. It's really not that difficult a concept to understand.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That cop should be thrown in jail. That's a horrible breaching of the first and I hope the cops get sued because of it. ****ing cops thinking they can do whatever they want because they have a badge.
    Of course you realize that there is no 1st Amendment in England - and this entire thread is some sort of "bogeyman" used to scare up conservatives on here, right?

    England has different laws than we do; this wouldn't happen here and to pretend it would is nothing more than conservative paranoia.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    Sin...is sin....is sin...is sin. All are bad in God's eyes. Whether it be homosexuality, murder, stealing, coveting, whatever else you can think of. No one is bigger or worse than the other. According to the Bible (whether you agree with it, dont agree with it, dont care, whatever)... it states that homosexuality is an abomination to God. No one is telling anyone they have to believe that, it just is what it is. But all sin is. And it is always hate the sin not the sinner. I think homosexuality is a sin, that is my personal opinion and no one elses. However, having said that, I know quite a few gays and lesbians, some of whom I am friends with some I am not; but either way I dont hate them, I dont talk about them, I dont constantly push the bible in their faces to get them to see the error of their ways...they know where I stand on the issue, I know where they stand; doesnt mean we dont get along great. Doesnt mean that I dont think they are fantastic people. I just dont agree with their lifestyle and choose not to do that for myself. It's really not that difficult a concept to understand.
    You "choose" not to be gay? Really?

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    You "choose" not to be gay? Really?
    We've had that argument here more than once. There is no conclusive scientific evidence on the origins of homosexuality. Calling it a choice or calling it inborn both amount to speculation.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    You "choose" not to be gay? Really?
    Does it really matter if it's a choice or not? Fact is, we live in a country that values individual liberty and personal choice and there's nothing illegal about being gay here. The matter of choice versus being born with it really is irrelevant.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Does it really matter if it's a choice or not? Fact is, we live in a country that values individual liberty and personal choice and there's nothing illegal about being gay here. The matter of choice versus being born with it really is irrelevant.
    I agree with you here. Who cares if it's choice or not. I've just never heard anyone claim to specifically choose "not to be gay" (except those people who go through the Christian de-gaying camps).

    Very simply, religion is protected and it's a choice. So I don't see why we need to worry whether it's a choice or not.

    The interesting thing to me is this: yes, you can be born into a religion (especially highly inherited religions like Judaism and Catholicism) - but you can choose as an adult to reject your religion or alter it.

    So why do we worry about whether homosexuality is a choice? Why do we get so worked up over how people want to take part in romantic relationships?

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    You "choose" not to be gay? Really?
    Once again... and this is my opinion only. I believe it is a choice. Yes. I know that some say that people are born that way or a number of other varying opinions on the subject. I think the verdict is still out on that, but either way... In answer to your question, yes, I personally believe that it is a choice.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Does it really matter if it's a choice or not? Fact is, we live in a country that values individual liberty and personal choice and there's nothing illegal about being gay here. The matter of choice versus being born with it really is irrelevant.

    Exactly!!!!!!!

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    Once again... and this is my opinion only. I believe it is a choice. Yes. I know that some say that people are born that way or a number of other varying opinions on the subject. I think the verdict is still out on that, but either way... In answer to your question, yes, I personally believe that it is a choice.
    There is some fairly solid evidence that orientation is formed at least as early as 1 year of age. Nothing is proven, but the preponderance of evidence suggests that orientation is set very early in life. This makes the idea of "choice" very unlikely.
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