That comment only goes to show you didn't read my entire post. You stopped at the Biblical quoates and assumed I was on some anti-gay tirade presuming that's what the preacher was doing. But nothing could be further from the truth on either count. There's nothing in the article that concludes that the preacher is anti-gay as much as his words affirm that he's anti-sinful lifestyle according to his religious beliefs. As for the content of my post (#51), had you bothered to read it all, this is what you would have read at the end:Are you actually equating those things (persecution of slaves) with having your posts debunked on an internet forum? Oh, the soul-crushing agony of persecution by logic.
Now, if you had commented on the above which you delved into alittle bit when you later posted this:According to the article, "the Public Order Act, introduced in 1986 to tackle violent rioters and football hooligans, is being used to curb religious free speech." So, is it possible this preacher was being persecuted and this law is being used as a tool to shut him up?
...we'd be speaking on the merits of his arrest and not the merits of one's religious convictions which isn't the point of this thread nor was it a point I was trying to make in my original post. Yet anytime someone breaths a hint of their (Christian) religious convictions you go on one of your little rants where you feel you have to belittle them in order to make yourself look better, towit:No. He was silenced because he broke the law IN ENGLAND. I don't personally support those laws, no matter how wrong-headed and stupid I believe the preacher (and those like him) to be.
Not once did I say I was against gays or lesbians, or that they didn't have a right to live their lives as they see fit. Nor did the preacher for that matter. I pointed out those passeages from Scripture not only to show that the preacher was correct according to Biblical tenants but also to make the broader argument that despite what he said he ultimate was arrested for speaking up for his religious beliefs. His arrest had nothing to do with the tenor inwhich he uttered his religious convictions to a stranger but had everything to do with someone not liking what was said and using a noise ordinace law in order to shut him up. That is wrong! But it's the law of their land, not mine. So, perhaps the preacher should pay closer attention to who's around him next time he speaks. Or maybe he should continue to stand up for his religious convictions and rightfully answer questions concerning the various sins as he understands them from his religious teachings. The irony here is you come across as someone who stands up for her God given rights (in this case, freedom of speech and freedom of religion) yet put people down when they exercise same (referring to the preacher here and not myself). I find that very hypocritical. Yet you stand firm to your belief that the preach broke the law. Well, where's the evidence of that? According to the article, the preacher wasn't shouting at the time he was conducting his conversation with the woman who inquired of him. So, how was he in the wrong? Ah! He uttered words of hate which is untrue. What he did was confirm what the Bible says on specific matters that were addressed to him. A cop overheard him, didn't like what he had to say and and busted him on a flimsy noise ordinance charge.Spare me the love of Jesus. The message he was sharing was one of hate and intolerance towards gay people in the guise of his religious views...views that I personally consider archaic, backward ass, and stupid.
Again, not once did I express my point of view on gays and lesbians here or anywhere else. I merely quoted where the preacher was correct on the matter from a Biblical standpoint. But again, I in no way am saying you have to agree or disagree with the lifestyle or anyone's religious beliefs. I merely pointed out the what the preacher said was Bibically based.The law is stupid. So was his message. Do not mistake my defending his right to speak with me condoning his message. His (and your) messages about gays and lesbians are abhorrent, repugnant, and socially retarded. I don't care that they're biblical, the Bible is an archaic document that belongs in the dungheap. We'd be far better off as a society without these silly archaic prejudices.
Now, that is something we both can agree with.Nonetheless, the U.S. is a better system than the British system because people have unrestricted freedom even to put out viewpoints that I find personally disgusting.