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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Sure, and Leviticus lists off pretty much everything as a sin, so if you want to see any of those things as a sin there it is for you. If I wanted to I could argue that God hates black people because he turned Abel black as punishment for his crime. Of course most people would say that's pretty stupid, but point being that if I wanted biblical evidence for black=bad, well...there it is.
    I think that's a specifically Mormon belief, and isn't really scriptural. There is nothing in the OT that mentions that the Mark of Cain = black skin.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    From where are you getting your information that he was arrested simply for stating his opinion that homosexuality is a sin? Have you read witness statements? Have your read transcripts of the hearing? Or are you just taking the Telegraph's word for it? They quoted no one from Cumbria police, indeed the only corroboration for you and their claim that he was arrested for that particular action was the preacher himself. Perhaps the fact of him being a preacher is enough for you to believe his every statement.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Right, he said it was a sin and so they arrested him (though I suspect there's more to the story). He wasn't arrested because he had a belief in his head and was arrested for it. And I don't know what you're arguing with me over this for since I stated in the beginning that the officer was in the wrong.
    He was still arrested for his beliefs. Its kind of sad you are trying to parse it just because he said it aloud.
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    From where are you getting your information that he was arrested simply for stating his opinion that homosexuality is a sin? Have you read witness statements? Have your read transcripts of the hearing? Or are you just taking the Telegraph's word for it? They quoted no one from Cumbria police, indeed the only corroboration for you and their claim that he was arrested for that particular action was the preacher himself. Perhaps the fact of him being a preacher is enough for you to believe his every statement.
    The article says it pretty clearly.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    He was still arrested for his beliefs. Its kind of sad you are trying to parse it just because he said it aloud.
    No, he was arrested for speaking them aloud in a public place.

    And his arrest was wrong, IMO. Despite how deplorable his beliefs may be.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    He was still arrested for his beliefs. Its kind of sad you are trying to parse it just because he said it aloud.
    Wrong. He was ostensibly arrested for how he COMMUNICATED his beliefs. That's why it was a disruption of the public peace offense.

    Of course, English free speech laws are different from our own. However, even in the U.S., if you share your views in disruptive ways, you can be arrested.

    There are legal limits on free speech even in the U.S. For instance, students are not allowed to wear clothing items that might be disruptive to the learning environment. Schools can censor even religious symbols if it is determined that those symbols have a link to gangs and/or disruptive behavior.

    You can listen to whatever music you want, but if you listen to it too loudly, many communities have noise ordinances that prohibit noise that is loud enough to disrupt other people's use of their own property or public spaces.

    This isn't just "evil socialists attack religious people."

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    The article says it pretty clearly.

    What are you basing your disbelief on? Of thats right, nothing
    I'm not opining on the justice or injustice of the case. I'm pointing out that you are whipping yourself into a froth of indignation on the basis of one newspaper article whose only witness to the event was the preacher himself. So, you are saying that this is the action of the politically correct fascist state on the basis of one street preacher's sense of victimhood.

    If you can corroborate his story with the testimony of disinterested witnesses, then we can take it from there. The Telegraph provides no such corroboration. Why are you so keen to believe a street preacher rather than the police?
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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    And his arrest was wrong, IMO. Despite how deplorable his beliefs may be.
    It depends upon how disruptive his presentation was. A street preacher might be arrested, even in the U.S., if his actions were deemed to be a nuisance and/or disruptive. I.e., if he was shouting loudly enough to be disruptive to everyone else who was sharing the common space, law enforcement even in the U.S. would probably cite him for a nuisance or noise ordinance violation.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I'm not opining on the justice or injustice of the case. I'm pointing out that you are whipping yourself into a froth of indignation on the basis of one newspaper article whose only witness to the event was the preacher himself. So, you are saying that this is the action of the politically correct fascist state on the basis of one street preacher's sense of victimhood.
    It reaffirms existing paradigms and Tex enjoys being frothy.

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