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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    you just called the preacher stupid....and i have read other posts in other sections where you have done the same.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Secondly, freedom of religious expression trumps anyone's right to not be offended. In fact, there's no right to not be offended. Religious expression is a fundamental human right.
    I'm sorry, but religious expression is not a fundamental human right. Nowhere in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights may that right be found. Whatever the first amendment to the US Constitution may say, that only applies to US society. No one has the right in a civil human society to deliberately offend anyone, and offensive behaviour should be, and often is, punishable at law.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It's sad to hear about what's going on in England.
    We are touched by your condolences, but let not your heart be troubled; Britannia will very likely survive, irrespective of trans-Atlantic opinion.
    I hate the idea of causes, and if I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country. E.M. Forster

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    you just called the preacher stupid....and i have read other posts in other sections where you have done the same.
    Feel free to prove it. I often call posts or beliefs stupid. I almost never call individuals stupid. I did make an exception for the preacher though. I think he's a maroon.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    No one has the right in a civil human society to deliberately offend anyone,
    Oh, come on now.

    Now you've strayed far into freedom of speech territory. Which, of course, is where this belongs.

    Is that a universal human right?

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    I'm sorry, but religious expression is not a fundamental human right.
    IN your opinion. Ours differs.

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    IN your opinion. Ours differs.
    Of course, but I did reference the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, in which freedom of religious expression is conspicuous by its absence.
    I hate the idea of causes, and if I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country. E.M. Forster

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    I'm sorry, but religious expression is not a fundamental human right. Nowhere in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights may that right be found. Whatever the first amendment to the US Constitution may say, that only applies to US society. No one has the right in a civil human society to deliberately offend anyone, and offensive behaviour should be, and often is, punishable at law.
    Our society is the only one that matters because we're the only ones doing it right.

    And you are flat wrong because Article 18 specifically grants freedom of religion in both public and private. Here...let me show you:

    Article 18
    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
    So yeah, it is a fundamental human right and the "right" to not be offended...well, I still don't see that anywhere in any article.

    We are touched by your condolences, but let not your heart be troubled; Britannia will very likely survive, irrespective of trans-Atlantic opinion.
    So do you want a cookie (or a biscuit) or did you have some point to make?

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    So how long did it take for the conservatives in the first part of this thread to realize this story occurred in England and not the United States?

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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Of course, but I did reference the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, in which freedom of religious expression is conspicuous by its absence.
    I'm sorry. I don't believe that human rights are determined by the UN. But thanks for playing!!!


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    Re: Christian preacher arrested for saying homosexuality is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So how long did it take for the conservatives in the first part of this thread to realize this story occurred in England and not the United States?
    A long ****ing time. Surprised, we are not.


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