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    Re: Tens of thousands across U.S. protest Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Wow a bunch of liars,criminals and pro-criminals came together to smear Arizona's anti-illegal immigration. Not a parody post.



    As long as immigration reform contains amnesty or some form of it I do not want it.Immigration reform should be enforcement, denying tax payer funded services to illegals(that also means no food handler's permits, drivers licenses and etc,), banning sanctuary cities, requiring police to verify the legal status of everyone they pull over(or some other form of legal contact), more border agents,perhaps militarizing the border, repealing the law that allows for the chain migration of relatives other than spouse and minor children and requiring that those who hire illegals be severely punished.
    liars,criminals, and theives oh my !!! So there wasn't even one honest law abbing person among them ? liars,criminals, and theives oh my !!!
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    Re: Tens of thousands across U.S. protest Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    My bad it was the basic human rights they are given Universal Declaration of Human Rights

    Sorry about that I had gotten confused a little bit.
    I did not see anything immigrants per se as I thought :
    Article 13
    1.Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
    2.Everyone has the right to leave any country, including their own, and to return to their country.
    "within the borders of each state." I did not hink that it would have promoted Illegal Alienism. !!!

    " return to their country" So illegals have the right to be thrown out and to return to where hey came from.
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    Re: Tens of thousands across U.S. protest Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    liars,criminals, and theives oh my !!! So there wasn't even one honest law abbing person among them ? liars,criminals, and theives oh my !!!
    How is it honest to sit there and say the new Arizona allows racial profiling or that it allows cops to just stop anyone the suspect might be an illegal ask for ID and immigration status without first stopping them for some other offense or some other legal contact? There might be some law abiding citizens among them assuming that they are not harboring,aiding or employing illegals.
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    Re: Tens of thousands across U.S. protest Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    My bad it was the basic human rights they are given Universal Declaration of Human Rights

    Sorry about that I had gotten confused a little bit.
    Did you see some of the LIBRUL stuff that the UDHR has ??? Some of the stuff is bordering on Socialism..!!!!

    Article 3
    Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
    Article 4
    No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.
    Article 5
    No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment
    Article 6
    Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

    it get worse

    without any discrimination to equal protection
    No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
    Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent
    right to freedom of movement
    Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.

    OMG terrible just terrible !! Who the hell does the UN think that they are telling that we cannot discriminate ?
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    Re: Tens of thousands across U.S. protest Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How is it honest to sit there and say the new Arizona allows racial profiling or that it allows cops to just stop anyone the suspect might be an illegal ask for ID and immigration status without first stopping them for some other offense or some other legal contact? There might be some law abiding citizens among them assuming that they are not harboring,aiding or employing illegals.
    Well some people feel that the law especially beore the tweaking can be interpreted to allow profiling. But let's say that someone thinks that !! Ok so how does that make them liars? Now let's discuss the crimnal aspect. If the demonstartors has not commited a crime and convicted they are not criminals. If they are illegals they are criminals but do we know how many illegals were at the demonstration ?

    There might be some law abiding citizens among them
    so they were virtually liars, criminals and thieves / oh my
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    Re: Tens of thousands across U.S. protest Arizona immigration law

    I can support immigration reform, as long as the first step is control the borders and stop the flow into the US. Any reform then needs to have harsher penalties for those who enter illegally.
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    Re: Tens of thousands across U.S. protest Arizona immigration law

    I respect them for their opinion.

    But, I know they are wrong.

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    Re: Tens of thousands across U.S. protest Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Well some people feel that the law especially beore the tweaking can be interpreted to allow profiling.
    It doesn't allow for racial profiling, it doesn't even allow police to go up to you and ask for you to prove your status.they have to stop you for speeding or some other offense hence the Lawful Contact part of the bill.

    But let's say that someone thinks that !! Ok so how does that make them liars?
    When they have been told over and over again it does not so such thing and possibly even shown the bill, it is a lie to say it does something when it does not. The bill is not that long, it is not a bill the feds wrote and it would probably take only two or three post to paste the bill in its entirety.

    Now let's discuss the crimnal aspect.
    A lot of those people are illegals which is a crime, a lot of those people harbor illegals which is a crime and a lot of those people employ illegals which is a crime.

    If the demonstartors has not commited a crime and convicted they are not criminals.
    All of those people however a pro-criminals seeing how they are protesting an anti-illegal immigration law.

    If they are illegals they are criminals but do we know how many illegals were at the demonstration ?
    I didn't say they were all criminals. Some are pro-criminals.


    so they were virtually liars, criminals and thieves / oh my
    Their lies are not virtual. They deliberately lie to smear Arizona's anti-illegal immigration law. Illegals and pro-illegals do not like such laws and will do what ever they can to demonize such laws.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Tens of thousands across U.S. protest Arizona immigration law

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I can support immigration reform, as long as the first step is control the borders and stop the flow into the US. Any reform then needs to have harsher penalties for those who enter illegally.
    As a legal immigrant I am of course in favor of an intelligent, safe, and fair immigration laws. I have always advocated the strict control of our borders.
    As an American citizen I do not want to be treated diferently than any other American citizen just becasue I came here after I was born and was not aware that I should have selected American born parents before I was born. How stupid of me!!!
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    Re: Tens of thousands across U.S. protest Arizona immigration law

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    But let's say that someone thinks that !! Ok so how does that make them liars?

    When they have been told over and over again it does not so such thing and possibly even shown the bill, it is a lie to say it does something when it does not. The bill is not that long, it is not a bill the feds wrote and it would probably take only two or three post to paste the bill in its entirety.


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    People may interpret things diferently. I may see things diferently than you and you see things diferently than me. The founding fathers had that all figured out that is why they created the Supremes and the Supremes have that great hit called InTerPreTaTion !!!

    So in a 5 to 4 decision are you saying that the 4 who voted that way are liars ?
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