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    Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb attempt

    CAIRO, EGYPT — The Pakistani Taliban has claimed responsibility for the failed car bomb attack in Times Square in New York City
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    ~10 years since the hostilities started, and they can still infiltrate New York City.

    Can be spun five ways: [1] the wars in Afghanistan/Pakistan are fruitless, and we are still as vulnerable as ever; [2] the mission isn't complete; [3] the Iraq excursion was an unnecessary detour, and our real threat has always been the Taliban/FATA al-Qa'ida; [4] Bush failed; [5] Obama failed.
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb attempt

    You know, there is something that just doesn't meet the eye here. It was such an amateurish attempt, and now "The Pakistani Taliban" is taking credit for it. "The Pakistani Taliban" is a huge generalization of a lot of different groups, and there is no specific group mentioned, just the general Pakistani Taliban.

    Could this have been a false flag operation planned by somebody? Could the bomb have been a dud for a reason, with it's only real purpose to instill fear in Americans, to socialize us for yet another war of some kind, or to socialize us for expanding operations in Afghanistan? In connecting the dots, those dots could lead anywhere.

    BTW, I am just playing Devil's advocate here, and attempting to get some discussion going on this angle, in order to see where the discussion might lead.
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, there is something that just doesn't meet the eye here. It was such an amateurish attempt, and now "The Pakistani Taliban" is taking credit for it. "The Pakistani Taliban" is a huge generalization of a lot of different groups, and there is no specific group mentioned, just the general Pakistani Taliban.
    No necessarily true. The group that claimed responsibility for this attack is Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, according to SETI (linkage) .

    Could this have been a false flag operation planned by somebody? Could the bomb have been a dud for a reason, with it's only real purpose to instill fear in Americans, to socialize us for yet another war of some kind, or to socialize us for expanding operations in Afghanistan? In connecting the dots, those dots could lead anywhere.

    BTW, I am just playing Devil's advocate here, and attempting to get some discussion going on this angle, in order to see where the discussion might lead.
    T-i-T, as I like to call them, are a fairly competent group. They are cited as being the al-Qa'ida/Terrorist arm that helped Mushy assassinate Benazir Bhutto

    I think the fact that the terrorists are becoming less and less capable of finishing their attacks on American soil is because we're whipping their ass.
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb attempt

    This same type of car bomb was used in London in 2007 by Islamic terrorists. Was this the same group, does anyone know?

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb attempt

    No connection..

    The main 4 terrorists in the 7/7 bombing were British and Jamaican.
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
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    ~10 years since the hostilities started, and they can still infiltrate New York City.

    Can be spun five ways: [1] the wars in Afghanistan/Pakistan are fruitless, and we are still as vulnerable as ever; [2] the mission isn't complete; [3] the Iraq excursion was an unnecessary detour, and our real threat has always been the Taliban/FATA al-Qa'ida; [4] Bush failed; [5] Obama failed.
    Infiltrate New York? It's not a secure location. Anyone with a car, bike, train ticket, helicopter, wheelchair, skateboard, or pair of legs can get in.
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Infiltrate New York? It's not a secure location. Anyone with a car, bike, train ticket, helicopter, wheelchair, skateboard, or pair of legs can get in.
    of course, but if they're Pakistan Taliban then should have one hell of a time.

    You just cant walks right into Mordor.
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, there is something that just doesn't meet the eye here. It was such an amateurish attempt...
    Given what has been described in the media e.g., the "amateurish" explosive device, I tend to doubt that the Taliban had any role in the attack. The Taliban has too much experience with such devices, and even if one had failed to detonate, it would not have been set up in an "amateurish" fashion.

    While a sympathizer could have been involved, odds may favor some individual who acted for reasons unrelated to the Taliban e.g., an individual who might have had some personal grudge over some issue that impacted him/her or he/she perceived did.

    As for the Taliban's claiming credit, the Taliban would dearly like to carry out an act of terrorism on U.S. soil to widen the proverbial battlefield. That they have had no success to date in doing so and likely face significant difficulties in trying to organize such an attack has been frustrating for that terrorist organization. Therefore, the claim of responsibility is more likely than not opportunistic, even as the probability of an actual attempt by the Taliban in this case is probably low (but probably not zero).

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    Re: Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb attempt

    Don is quite right.

    The Taliban will claim responsibility for any attack in the United States...

    example: Taliban claims responsibility for NY shootout Video, Video clips, Featured videos: Rediff Videos
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    Re: Pakistani Taliban claims NYC car bomb attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    No connection..

    The main 4 terrorists in the 7/7 bombing were British and Jamaican.
    Were they Islamic?

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